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Originally Posted by RamiTheBullsFan
Yeah, I'll give you Pippen.
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Of course you would...
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Originally Posted by RamiTheBullsFan
But the fact you guys have Iverson over T-Mac is suspect.
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No it's not.
Iverson at "peak" 4 scoring titles, another seasons at 33PPG. An MVP and leading a trash Philly team to the Finals. 3 All NBA 1st teams
McGrady at "peak": 2 scoring titles. 2 All NBA first teams
There's not a thing "suspect" about it.
Iverson was a better player for TMac, both at their peaks, and over a longer period of time.
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Originally Posted by RamiTheBullsFan
And I've never seen tape of Gervin/Havicek/West do the things that McGrady could.
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This isn't a discussion of who the better "athlete" is. It's a discussion of who the better basketball player is. Gervin/Havlecik/West were far and away better basketball players it's not even a discussion.
I find it hilarious you are still on this kick about Gervin/Havlecik/West when:
Gervin won twice as many scoring titles as McGrady, got past the 1st round of the playoffs and played high level basketball for a decade or more, made 5 All NBA first teams and is widely seen as an icon player. 12 time All Star 2nd in the MVP voting for two seasons
Havlecik made 13 All Star games, won 8 titles, made 4 NBA first teams, 5 NBA defensive 1st teams, and is seen as one of the top 5 small forwards to ever play the game.
Jerry West, 14 All Star Games, 1 Ring, 10 All NBA First teams, 3 All NBA Defensive 1st teams, NBA Finals MVP, finished 2nd in the MVP voting 4 times, 4 years over 30PPG and before this guy named Jordan came along he was far and away the best shooting guard to ever play the game. Jordan has passed him and many say Kobe has as well but that's still damn good guy to be passed by.
On top of all of this these above guy are Hall of Famer's something that McGrady most likely will never accomplish. You're comparing McGrady as a basketball player to three guys that are in the discussion as some of the best to ever play their position when McGrady isn't anywhere near the top of that conversation and on any list is an after thought and maybe gets an honerable mention with a vote or two for a top 10 list.
McGrady: 2 scoring titles. 7 All Star games, a Most Improved player award(lulz), 2 All NBA first teams. No top 2 or 3 in the MVP voting. Wow...impressed......
But because you can't find "film" of West/Gervin/Hondo dunking over Shawn Bradley or pulling a Rodney Rogers you honestly think they aren't better than TMac. Really?