Matt Garza Trade/Extension Discussion Thread

[Rice Cube]

The three-team trade might be a bit messy but could also be very beneficial.

Toronto gets Matt Garza

Cubs get Anthony Rizzo from SD and prospects from Toronto

Padres get prospects from Toronto only

That seems to be how a hypothetical trade would best work out.

[CODE_BLUE56]

Originally Posted by Rice Cube

The three-team trade might be a bit messy but could also be very beneficial.

Toronto gets Matt Garza

Cubs get Anthony Rizzo from SD and prospects from Toronto

Padres get prospects from Toronto only

That seems to be how a hypothetical trade would best work out.

or a three way trade insert yankees for toronto who can offer us better pitching

but overall i like this kind of trade

[dabynsky]

Originally Posted by Rice Cube

The three-team trade might be a bit messy but could also be very beneficial.

Toronto gets Matt Garza

Cubs get Anthony Rizzo from SD and prospects from Toronto

Padres get prospects from Toronto only

That seems to be how a hypothetical trade would best work out.

Given the apparent interest in San Deigo for middle infielders, I could see Ronald Torreyes being a guy the Cubs got because he was interseting to San Deigo. I like the basic parameters of the deal, but I could see the Cubs sending a prospect like Torreyes and getting more back from TO. All of this is speculation, but it is certainly fun to envision turning Matt Garza into Anonthy Rizzo plus.

[dabynsky]

Originally Posted by CODE_BLUE56

or a three way trade insert yankees for toronto who can offer us better pitching

but overall i like this kind of trade

The Yankees can offer us better pitching, but there has been no indication that they are willing to move those guys. They weren't willing to part with those guys for a guy very, very similar to Garza.

[CODE_BLUE56]

Originally Posted by dabynsky

The Yankees can offer us better pitching, but there has been no indication that they are willing to move those guys. They weren't willing to part with those guys for a guy very, very similar to Garza.

thats the issue...what does toronto have in terms of pitching?

[Rice Cube]

MLBTR updated their Garza blurb:

5:12pm: The Cubs and Blue Jays continue to discuss a Garza deal, Jim Bowden of MLB Network Radio and ESPN.com tweets. The Cubs seem to be prioritizing young starting pitching in talks about Garza, tweets Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com. One executive told Heyman that the Yankees and Blue Jays have what it takes to acquire Garza.

[dabynsky]

Originally Posted by CODE_BLUE56

thats the issue...what does toronto have in terms of pitching?

Kyle Drabek is the guy that has the most upside that is ready now. He, as FirstTimer pointed out earlier, has sucked as a big leaguer though so far. A lot of their other top arms are in the low minors. Their highest rated pitching prospect according to BA is Daniel Norris, but he was just drafted last year and thus can't be traded until after the draft this season. Noah Syndergaard has a fair bit of buzz, but has pitched exactly 9 innings of full season ball. Same story for guys like LHP Justin Nicolino and RHP Aaron Sanchez. RHP Drew Hutchison is pretty interesting guy who as a 20 year old between A, High A, and AA put up a 2.53 ERA with 171 Ks to 35 BBs. RHP Deck McGuire is another guy that made it AA and put up some pretty solid numbers. Hutchison's and McGuire's stuff though tends to rank much lower than the guys in the low minors, and are generally seen as middle of the rotation at best types. Bottom line is there is a lot of talent there, but if you want the guys that have a shot at being top of the rotation guys you are taking a pretty big risk and are going to wait quite a while.

[dabynsky]

Originally Posted by Rice Cube

MLBTR updated their Garza blurb:

While I highly doubt they would part with him, I would love for the Cubs to nab Manny Banuelos.

[WindyCity]

I am excited that their demands for Garza are incredibly high and both the Jays and Yankees are stacked in the farm system with pitching talent.

If Jesus Montero's name comes into the conversation I am making the deal.

[DewsSox79]

Originally Posted by FirstTimer

San Diego.

James Russell, Randy Wells for Rizzo should get it done. PLUS we keep Garza.

I'd love to see a Garza for Rizzo deal....but the Cubs need pitching badly. There's some position players in the pipeline....pitching is fucking barren...even if you like Trey McNutt. Toronto would make some sense from that perspective then. Same with the Yankees. The Red Sox pitching spects....pretty blah really.