2012 Booz
Go Back   CHI CITY SPORTS l #1 Chicago Sports Fan Message Board > Sports Discussion > Chicago White Sox Forum


Chicago White Sox Forum Chicago White Sox MLB Message Board - Fan Forum - Discussion - Rumors - Articles - Blog Photobucket

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-01-2012, 08:16 AM   #1
Ass Man
 
SaberSox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Logan Square
Posts: 272
Thanks: 178
Thanked 143 Times in 105 Posts
SaberSox has a spectacular aura aboutSaberSox has a spectacular aura about

Chicago White Sox 2011 Sox Had 5 Starters With Negative WAR

A great article on why the White Sox sucked. It goes in to more than just WAR.

WAR's toll on the White Sox - South Side Sox
__________________
Cheers,
Jeremy

One of these things is not like the other...
SaberSox is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2012, 02:37 PM   #2
Report Me
 
DewsSox79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 17,553
Thanks: 7,712
Thanked 3,304 Times in 2,458 Posts
DewsSox79 has a reputation beyond reputeDewsSox79 has a reputation beyond reputeDewsSox79 has a reputation beyond reputeDewsSox79 has a reputation beyond reputeDewsSox79 has a reputation beyond reputeDewsSox79 has a reputation beyond reputeDewsSox79 has a reputation beyond reputeDewsSox79 has a reputation beyond reputeDewsSox79 has a reputation beyond reputeDewsSox79 has a reputation beyond reputeDewsSox79 has a reputation beyond repute

Awards Showcase


Default

thank god it wasnt just WAR. WAR alone sucks as an evaluation
__________________
DewsSox79 is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2012, 11:13 PM   #3
G'day Mate!
 
Uman85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 15,551
Thanks: 5,274
Thanked 5,274 Times in 3,762 Posts
Uman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond repute

Awards Showcase


Default

I'm surprised it was only 5.
__________________
Uman85 is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2012, 02:59 PM   #4
Ass Man
 
SaberSox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Logan Square
Posts: 272
Thanks: 178
Thanked 143 Times in 105 Posts
SaberSox has a spectacular aura aboutSaberSox has a spectacular aura about

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DewsSox79 View Post
thank god it wasnt just WAR. WAR alone sucks as an evaluation
why?
__________________
Cheers,
Jeremy

One of these things is not like the other...
SaberSox is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2012, 06:44 PM   #5
#19
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 123
Thanks: 137
Thanked 56 Times in 42 Posts
#19 is on a distinguished road

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DewsSox79 View Post
WAR alone sucks as an evaluation
Everything alone sucks as an evaluation tool.
#19 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to #19 For This Useful Post:
Old 02-02-2012, 07:35 PM   #6
G'day Mate!
 
Uman85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 15,551
Thanks: 5,274
Thanked 5,274 Times in 3,762 Posts
Uman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond repute

Awards Showcase


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by #19 View Post
Everything alone sucks as an evaluation tool.
That's true, but Dews is simply saying there are better stats to use besides WAR to determine a player's value.
__________________
Uman85 is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2012, 07:38 PM   #7
Bears Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 11,509
Thanks: 5,926
Thanked 3,062 Times in 2,287 Posts
nwfisch has a reputation beyond reputenwfisch has a reputation beyond reputenwfisch has a reputation beyond reputenwfisch has a reputation beyond reputenwfisch has a reputation beyond reputenwfisch has a reputation beyond reputenwfisch has a reputation beyond reputenwfisch has a reputation beyond reputenwfisch has a reputation beyond reputenwfisch has a reputation beyond reputenwfisch has a reputation beyond repute

Awards Showcase


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DewsSox79 View Post
thank god it wasnt just WAR. WAR sucks



WAR is good for nothing.
__________________
"Live in the past die in the past. tomorrow is a mystery, today is a gift that is why they call it the present"
-Mike Ditka
nwfisch is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to nwfisch For This Useful Post:
Old 02-02-2012, 07:39 PM   #8
#19
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 123
Thanks: 137
Thanked 56 Times in 42 Posts
#19 is on a distinguished road

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Uman85 View Post
That's true, but Dews is simply saying there are better stats to use besides WAR to determine a player's value.
Name it
#19 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2012, 07:41 PM   #9
Bears Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 11,509
Thanks: 5,926
Thanked 3,062 Times in 2,287 Posts
nwfisch has a reputation beyond reputenwfisch has a reputation beyond reputenwfisch has a reputation beyond reputenwfisch has a reputation beyond reputenwfisch has a reputation beyond reputenwfisch has a reputation beyond reputenwfisch has a reputation beyond reputenwfisch has a reputation beyond reputenwfisch has a reputation beyond reputenwfisch has a reputation beyond reputenwfisch has a reputation beyond repute

Awards Showcase


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by #19 View Post
Name it
Wins, losses, ERA, WHIP, ERA+

A host of statistics, not cherry picking WAR and using it as it alone has no solid base.
__________________
"Live in the past die in the past. tomorrow is a mystery, today is a gift that is why they call it the present"
-Mike Ditka
nwfisch is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to nwfisch For This Useful Post:
Old 02-02-2012, 07:53 PM   #10
G'day Mate!
 
Uman85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 15,551
Thanks: 5,274
Thanked 5,274 Times in 3,762 Posts
Uman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond reputeUman85 has a reputation beyond repute

Awards Showcase


Default

The problem with WAR is that there are too many different ways to calculate it, therefore it has no solid and uniform base to rely on.
__________________
Uman85 is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Uman85 For This Useful Post:
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:40 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.5.0