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It better be REALLY team friendly
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Cubs must be really high on him to extend him this soon. Interesting to say the least.
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5 yrs 15 mil.
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Then it’s not that bad. It does make me wonder where Happ fits in now. I think it’s time to move Happ for some pitching
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Honestly it's mostly just buying out his rookie deal and setting in stone his arb prices with 2 team friendly options at the end should they choose to keep him.
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True...but they obviously intend to give him a solid amount of PT, and plan on moving him around the diamond to different positions. Kind of what everyone expected they would do with Happ. If that’s the case, I’d look to trade Happ for an impact arm. The big league roster could use an upgrade in pitching imo. I felt that way before the season, and feel that way even more so now
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True, but if you're the FO there's no reason to make this deal unless you think there's something there, right? If you think he's just a AAAA player, you let him play out his arbitration, which is a team-friendly process as it is.
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Why?
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Probably their plan the whole time , and why they sent him down so he can get regular ABs
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It might signal a Happ trade honestly. I just see Zag being the expendable asset when Russell returns. Zobrist and Bryant end up getting OF time with Bote covering for them.
He is ok honestly. He fought for everything to date and it is respectable to do this. But it does feel like a signal that Happ is on the outs.
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Yeah I mean to me it suggests they think he's a starter caliber player. If he's just a bench bat I don't think you do this.
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15 mil is peanuts even for a utility guy. If he turns out to be every day then they pick up the opts. I don't see them spending 7M on a utility.
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I'm not saying it's a lot of money. I'm saying you don't tie yourself down to role players for 4-5 years. For example, they didn't do this with Szczur.
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Also for what its worth just look at how much playing time Bote is getting. Clearly they think he's more than a bench player. Not saying he's going to be an all star or anything but they clearly think he has more of a role than say la stella.
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I'm thinking that it was more about gaining control over the future. What is it 27 players have signed these deals sense Jan. So if Tom shows a willingness to extend with Kyle and David then the real targets will know that they can start talking because the door is open now.
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Again, of those 27 players are any of them role players? I mean i guess it depends on what you're defining as a role player but my point was more that if Bote isn't the 8th best hitter the cubs have then they think he's 9 or 10 and will play him for 400-500 PAs a season. You don't extend a guy like this if you're only planning on him getting 200 PAs.
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The point was investing 15M into Bote is chump change to the Ricketts. But what it shows Bryant Baez and Schwarber that now is a good time to talk extension.
I see it as a manipulation of sorts. Low investment shows that it is time to talk now.
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Thinking about this Bote extension, it could actually work out great for the cubs if he can play an adequate 2B and be a decent hitter..
3 mil for a starting 2Bmen for 5 yrs and if he actually becomes a solid starter, they can pick up his options for 2 more yrs at just 7mil per, that would be a steal..
Even if he just stays an average utility player, 3 mil per for 5 yrs is nothing
3 mil for a starting 2Bmen for 5 yrs and if he actually becomes a solid starter, they can pick up his options for 2 more yrs at just 7mil per, that would be a steal..
Even if he just stays an average utility player, 3 mil per for 5 yrs is nothing
