Eagles putting all the eggs in one nest

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Why? Because Mitch is a "good guy"?

Mitch is in an interesting situation. The Bears will have to decide between the end of this year and the start of the next if they want to exercise his fifth year option. If they do exercise the option, he will become a top ten paid QB in 2021. What makes this really interesting is that the CBA expires at the end of 2020, and Mitch's option year could potentially be a lock-out year. I am quite sure Mitch and his agent are well aware of this fact, and will want a heavily front loaded big signing bonus contract if the Bears try to re-sign/extend him.

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Meh. I feel like Mitch is the type of guy to give us a little bit of a discount and Pace has shown he has the ability to resign guys for cheap. Plus Mitch still has to actually show he’s worth that money still.
Well, part of this must have a "franchise" quarterback on your team means a whole lot of guys that have not done much win the lotto.
 

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Yikes that's a lot of money for Wentz considering where he sits in the pantheon of current NFL QB's.

That is how it works in the NFL. If you have a QB that even remotely resembles a long term franchise qb you pay the fuck outta them.
 

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Been away a bit, but wanted to chime in. Here's a few 'themes' that are relevant to this signing:

The gamble - Of course it's a gamble. All contracts are. For the Eagles they already gambled on Wentz when they moved up in the draft and that paid off. No doubt Foles was the Superbowl MVP and the team couldn't have won without him, but I also don't think they win without the 11-2 record Wentz had as a starter that same season. Wentz, despite his injury history, has been worth it and it definitely worth an extension.

The cost - We have to remember it's all relative to the salary cap. Last season they spent 7.65% and 4.09% of the cap on the 2 QB spots being Foles ($13.6M) and Wentz ($7.3M). That's 11.74%, which isn't far from the three highest paid QBs being Wilson, Big Ben and Rodgers that hover between 13.9% and 14.1% of the total cap.

The Collected Bargaining Agreement (CBA) #1 - This isn't talked about much, but the CBA expires after the 2020 season. Just looking at the history there's a good chance players will want more money and will get some incremental increases above the slotted natural growth. In short the negotiated cap will continue to rise so teams have incentive to lock their 'franchise' guys up before that time.

CBA #2 - Currently the NFL includes total revenues into it's calculation of what the CBA is. That was $14.2B in 2017 (couldn't quickly find something more recent). The one massive item that will be added to that mix is revenue from sports gambling. That increase is estimated to be an added $2.3B in 2020. According to the second article that will be a 13.4% increase. That's net new revenue, so we can anticipate the salary cap to get one big bump when that's added and then when the NFL starts marketing it full bore it will grow faster. In short, the CBA can be huge.

The QB market - This market will get more dicey and have more unknowns. We have good young QBs like Goff, Dak, Mitch, Watson and Mahomes whom all have representation asking for top dollar. We'll also have some older QBs hitting FA (like Cousins) and there will be some players either retired or not worth a massive deal (thinking Brady, Brees, Ben or Rivers). I honestly think Dak will get an extension very similar to Wentz. After that the agents of Goff, Mitch and Watson now have the market price, so butting it off a year will only make that contract more expensive. In short expect your QB to cost around 15% of the salary cap and this number will continue to be a smaller % of the cap as the cap itself grows faster than the negotiated salary increases.

Why now? - 2 years ago Wentz looked like the MVP before the season ending injury. Last season where he was coming off a late season torn ACL, LCL and IT band which obviously impacted his ability to prepare for football. In that 'recovery' season he actually increased his completion percentage and passer rating from the MVP caliber season. Looking at this year he's been focused on football all offseason (the back didn't impact him at all) and he's got the best supporting cast he's ever had: Jackson, Jeffery (not missing the first 4 games with a shoulder like in 2018), Ertz, Goedert (who will be a monster), Agholor and a Mike Sanders/Jordan Howard running game and if he can stay healthy he might go full Mahomes this season. Things are lined up for a monster season so putting the extension talk out a year probably won't help lower what you are paying him.


In the end the Eagles know what they have in Wentz and the extension was more a formality. Even if he gets hurt again he's a part of their long term plans, so that doesn't change too much. From the Wentz side it's all about football and it will let him focus on executing without getting broken.
 

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Meh. I feel like Mitch is the type of guy to give us a little bit of a discount and Pace has shown he has the ability to resign guys for cheap. Plus Mitch still has to actually show he’s worth that money still.

Sure Mitch might be that guy, but he's also hired an agent who's job is to get every dollar he can. Mitch might give a bit of a deal, but you shouldn't anticipate it to be that material.

Personally the Dak deal will be very relevant to the Mitch discussion. Both are great athletes who are great faces of the organization. Both play in systems that can mask things. Weather it's Mitch with Nagy or Dak with that running game it's tough to apply what they are doing without discounting their situation a bit. The other item is that Dak will be a FA this year whereas Mitch will be a FA in 2021 (assuming the 5th year option is exercised). Dak will be the next QB to get extended, so where that contract stands in relation to Wentz' will be telling.
 

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Sure Mitch might be that guy, but he's also hired an agent who's job is to get every dollar he can. Mitch might give a bit of a deal, but you shouldn't anticipate it to be that material.

Personally the Dak deal will be very relevant to the Mitch discussion. Both are great athletes who are great faces of the organization. Both play in systems that can mask things. Weather it's Mitch with Nagy or Dak with that running game it's tough to apply what they are doing without discounting their situation a bit. The other item is that Dak will be a FA this year whereas Mitch will be a FA in 2021 (assuming the 5th year option is exercised). Dak will be the next QB to get extended, so where that contract stands in relation to Wentz' will be telling.
Exactly. If Jerry Jones caves and hands over big money to Dak, and Mitch doesn’t improve or doesn’t improve enough, we have to look at drafting a new QB. At this point in his career Mitch isn’t worth a mega deal he’s still got a long way to go before that.
 

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