Grade the Bears signings so far

[Bears_804]

I thanked this but mostly cause of the Houston signing. I think you guys are too down on Skrine and think he'll hold his own in this defense. Patterson an A? I just can't stop thinking that we could of got T.Coleman for even cheaper then what we gave Patterson. He's already talking about how he doesn't wanna play RB.

Patterson is a utility knife weapon, not a RB. Why you would want to argue his statement that he doesn’t want to be a RB is a head scratcher. He isn’t one, and never has been one. He probably made that evident in his interview as well. They have a plan for him, and the only RB he will do is a sweep. Like our WR also do, that aren’t RB.

Return specialist was also a need of the team.

 

[JesusHalasChrist]

Guy who is not Bell #1 - F-
Guy who is not Bell #2 - F-
Guy who is not Bell #3 - F-
Guy who is not Bell #4 - F-
Guy who is not Bell #5 - F-
Guy who is not Bell #6 - F- [Projected]

 

[What?!?!]

Grading system

A - Pro Bowl level player
B - Good starter
C - Average player
D - Below average player
F - Terrible player


Mike Davis C+ He is cheap but I think his upside is no better than being a good player but more likely IMO being an average player hence the C+ .That is still useful as you can't be stacked with good players everywhere but nothing to write home about.

Buster Skrine C- Think his upside is really just as an average player but also have the potential in my view to be a below average player. I gave him a C- rather than a D+ as I think he is a bit more likely to just be average than below average.

Cordarelle Patterson C Kickoff Return guys are an increasingly dying breed with all the rule changes but I gave him a C because I think he has the ability to be an average player on offense particularly if he gets more snaps as a RB as opposed to a WR.

Ted Larsen D Below average player that will always be a below average player.

Ha Ha Clinton Dix B- Good player who signed for a good price. Gave him a B- because there is a slight risk that he ends up just being average (don't think there is much risk in him being bad) and because it is a one year deal so if he is good then he likely walks next year as unlikely to give him big money and Jackson bigger money. So not a lot of long term value.

This isn’t a grade the player exercise, it’s a grade the signing excercise, so that grading system doesn’t work.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

Davis B
Buster D
Patterson C
Larsen D
Haha B

 

[What?!?!]

Davis B+
Buster C-
Patterson B-
Larsen B+
Haha A+

 

[RiDLer80]

Mike Davis: C+ Should be an upgrade over both Cunningham & Mizzell. Not sure if he's a starter though, but he's a quality backup

Skrine: C- Downgrade from Callahan who gets a lot of penalties, but I believe he made his name in the slot so maybe a move back inside will improve his play

Patterson: B At the very least our KOR game should improve. Maybe Nagy can get him 3 or 4 touches a game to take advantage of his athleticism

HaHa: A Coverage upgrade over Amos on a very team-friendly deal. Former probably that can hopefully return to that level of play on the best D he's ever played with

 

[PolarBear]

Mike Davis: B- - Like the player and the contract is ok. It's good because we can go into the draft and not feel obligated to draft a RB.

Buster Skrine C+ - Meh. I think he will be better as a full-time slot guy but not a huge fan of the 3 year deal nor the history of penalties.

Cordarrelle Patterson B - ST's get s big improvement and Nagy gets another chess piece. Contract is meh.

Ted Larsen - Who cares

Haha Clinton-Dix A - Talented, motivated player who wanted to come here and play on a cheap deal.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

Buster is not as bad as people here think. Jet's had no pass rush last year and he was their best DB.

 

[Rob219_CBMB]

Guy who is not Bell #1 - F-
Guy who is not Bell #2 - F-
Guy who is not Bell #3 - F-
Guy who is not Bell #4 - F-
Guy who is not Bell #5 - F-
Guy who is not Bell #6 - F- [Projected]

the CCS Systems are all Go!

 

[Rob219_CBMB]

The total grade so far is...








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[WestCoastBearsFan]

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[Bear_Assed]

i havent seen a lot of jets games, but most people ive heard on the radio, including joniak and thayer tonight seem to think Buster Skrine is one of the best nickel backs in the league and it was a huge signing for the bears. Then i come on here and virtually everyone thinks he's a bum. i guess we'll have to wait and see.

 

[remydat]

It is measured against meeting your goals for that particular year, not just the number of FAs signed.

If you were in school and got 100/100 on a test, would that be a better letter grade than if you got 20/20 on a later test?

And if you say they got more talent last year....duh. But if they had spent like that this year, assuming it was even possible (it wasn't), it would be a complete disaster because of our different situation.

We have made the most of our situation, and are still a likely contender...

Oh I understand what you are saying. Just saying that is an awfully generous system of grading. Was just an observation as such things are subjective.

 

[remydat]

Odd grading system since some are meant to be secondary or tertiary players,and not factoring salary and cap cost but going by your grading system and new player grades, seems like they have improved.
New------------- vs--------------Old
Mike Davis-C+: Benny Cunningham-D+
Buster Skrine-C-: Bryce Callahan-B- (minus due to availability issues)
Cordarelle Patterson -C(as a KR this is a horribly low grade that you gave): Cunningham/White-D
Larsen-D:Kush-D
HaHa-B-:Amos C+

I agree some are meant to be secondary or tertiary players but for me that caps how high I can grade the signing.

As for your comments I agree except for CP and Haha. I dont have KR valued high as a position becausr the rules changes severely limit their impact.

As for Haha and Amos, I would have Amos as a slightly better player and locked in longer term which is offset by the fact HaHa is cheaper so both a B- for me.

 

[remydat]

This isn’t a grade the player exercise, it’s a grade the signing excercise, so that grading system doesn’t work.

Yeah and I grade the signing based on how much I think they will contribute. CP may be great at what he does but KR is one of the least important positions so not going to give it a high grade.

That is why I showed my system so people understand how I am looking at it. Others will have different ways of doing it which is fine.

 

[ijustposthere]

I have no problems with any of the bears signings so far. Personally like all of them, and don't think any of them make the bears worse.

 

[Black Rainbow]

Considering we were worried about our cap room, and most of us just wanted to sign a kicker, I gotta commend Pace for Blewitt & Dix. Atta, boy, Pace.

 

[jive]

It's nice to finally be at a point where free agency is more for improving depth instead of filling holes.
Grading is based on contract and comparison to the player they are replacing.

Skrine: D He's certainly a drop off from Callahan at an ever increasingly important position. He didn't come that cheap either.
Davis: C+ Improvement over Mizzell and Cunningham, but he's still just a guy. A rookie could have filled his role for much cheaper.
Patterson: B+ Improves our bad kick return game, and the bottom of the RB and WR depth chart. Improvement over Bellamy and White.
Larsen: D Just a body. He couldn't stick the last time he was here, and he has more miles since then. I doubt he makes it past training camp.
Dix: A Could be an improvement over Amos, or could add different dimension. Very friendly contract.

Overall B-
The drop in ability from Larsen to Kush and Skrine to Callahan stop it from being a really good free agency. We improved in 4 areas: #3 RB, KR, #4 WR, and S. We got worse in 2 areas, backup guard and nickel back.

 

[DanTown]

The only A signing I have is Dix. To get a player with that type of ceiling for basically 4th corner money is fairly amazing.

The guys in the B range are Davis, Patterson, and Larsen. Davis is going to be a really good fit I think for Nagy and I assume when they draft a RB/trade Howard for another pick to get a RB in the room, that position will have a ton of flexibility. Patterson is a far upgrade from Bellamy on the offense. That signing probably signals either the end of Wims or he better get great at ST.

The Skrine contract is a C for me because I think it's one of those 'this isn't a terrible contract but is the player any good" type deal. You just pray it works out.

The thing to note is how much better the Bears (assuming a Howard for rookie swap) look in terms of flexibility and player depth. Looks right now, your primary depth would be

RB - Davis, Cohen, Rookie
TE - Burton, Sheehan
WR - Robinson, Gabriel, Miller, Patterson

That is a TON of flexibility and depth that the Bears simply didn't have last year. These are guys (looking at say Patterson or a rookie RB) who can be highly specialized and provide value as well as step up and be a semi-contributor in case of injury.

The way this depth chart is going, it does make you just think about what the plans for ST is.

 

[Raskolnikov]

Skrine- B-...I think he is capable of upgrading Callahan actually if they can technique out his penalties. As free agency goes on I’m unsure if cost was necessary.
Davis- as a Howard replacement? C-, as a Mizzell/Cunningham replacement? B+
HaHa- A+. Upgrade., intel. Jackson connection. Cost. Wow
Larsen- maybe Heistand so...C-
Patterson- kick returns? Vet zebra? 5 mil? Intel? C