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Montgomery reminds me of Mark Walton of Miami, a 2018 4th round draft pick cut by the Bengals. Shifty, lots of broken tackles and a slow 40 time. Hope I'm wrong.
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Yes, no, maybe? Why the need to compare the two? I mean, what’s the point?
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You are wrong. I have no idea what you're basing that comparison on. Walton was under 5'10 and 188 lbs at the combine. Montgomery broke more tackles in one season than Walton did in his whole career. You don't have to like Montgomery, but that comparison makes no sense.
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Walton was measured at 202 pounds at the combine. Don't know where you got the 188 number. Again, hope I'm wrong.
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Garett Wolfe was a good guy and great interview too. That’s why he’s at Wendy’s now just ask @Omeletpants. Doesn’t put anything to rest.
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The way he interviewed, which was pretty great, isn't what puts the reach aspect to rest. It was what he said about being targeted by the Bear. That they told him they'd go get him if within reach. 2 separate thoughts that you're conflating. You can dislike the actual words he spoke but it wont change them.
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My mistake. I should have delved beyond the first scouting report I saw. Regardless, they are not even remotely similar prospects and I'm still not sure what you see to make that comparison.
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Also 4.6 40 at 222 is not slow, it's average, 4.6 at 202 is well below average. 40 times are mostly useless, but weight adjusted 40s are less so.
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There is nothing to put to rest because your Pace panicked theory is BS.
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Don't see any relevence...there was no point.
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I don't get this whole "DM is slow" narrative.
He improved upon his 40 time after the combine at his Pro Day. Down to 4.57...a hair quicker than Kareem Hunt's 40. Despite his size, that's good for 11th fastest RB in the draft -->incl. the smaller quicker scat backs, he's among the fastest at his size.
https://247sports.com/college/iowa-...sh-time-improve-Iowa-State-Pro-Day-130548970/
Most RB's won't flat outrun 4.4 or quicker DBs. With a big enough hole (headstart), & game planning, he can certainly peel off some long runs/receptions & take a few to the house. Check DM's tape.
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Good point.
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Something that I noticed on a full head to toe video interview was that his torso is way larger than his legs Perceptibly ...i.e. .... the ratio of torso : lower body is disproportionate and can easily be seen.
In other words at 5'10" Monty has the legs of someone 5'7"-5'8" with the POWER of a 222 lb'er. Mike Tyson was 5'10 ish 5'11 and 220
With those shorter legs/lower body he Naturally has a Lowered center of Gravity. This is a tremendous gift for balance. Add in his work ethic and Power, it is no wonder that he broke more tackles in college than any other back.
His quickness and ability to make people miss /break tackles Jumps out at you on tape. I could care less that after 20-30yds that he gets pushed outta bounds or is tackled. He will still be "hard" to bring down ...like a Buffalo from behind because of his lowered center and power.
Can we call him the Buffalo ???????????
In other words at 5'10" Monty has the legs of someone 5'7"-5'8" with the POWER of a 222 lb'er. Mike Tyson was 5'10 ish 5'11 and 220
With those shorter legs/lower body he Naturally has a Lowered center of Gravity. This is a tremendous gift for balance. Add in his work ethic and Power, it is no wonder that he broke more tackles in college than any other back.
His quickness and ability to make people miss /break tackles Jumps out at you on tape. I could care less that after 20-30yds that he gets pushed outta bounds or is tackled. He will still be "hard" to bring down ...like a Buffalo from behind because of his lowered center and power.
Can we call him the Buffalo ???????????
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I talked about this in another thread and why he can run upright like Forte but still be a good short yardage back like Forte was not especially so. Does limit his top speed a bit so we likely we won't see as many 20 yard runs but we won't see him getting stuffed as much on 3rd and 1 either.
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Pointless addition to this thread, but Forte ran a 4.46 40. At 6'1 220. So bigger RBs have run faster. I don't think its as rare as people think...
But strangely Forte was never considered a 'fast' running back....
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But strangely Forte was never considered a 'fast' running back....
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I love the comparisons of Montgomery to Forte's college career...CCS couldn't evaluate Forte's Bears career while watching him play, how can they offer up analysis of his time at Tulane? Comparing Montgomery to Forte at Tulane is like comparing Cutler to Sid Luckman. It walks the fine line between 'blind Bears homerism' and 'sheer nonsense'.
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You can't compare Montgomery's Pro Day 40 with the combine numbers of other RBs. Pro Day 40s are always faster so you have to assume the other RBs would be faster. Also, the combine is timed accurately and the conditions are the same for all runners.
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Thanks. Didn't realize there was a difference in measurements b/t the two.
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