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    Fred was Gar's guy too. Don't think Paxson wanted him. With Pax in charge now, he has the chance to get his guy I'd assume.
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    I'll say this about Fred: I was excited to see if his offensive concepts would work with the team. I thought they could, but for whatever reason, he never got a fair shake with the lineup they were putting around him.
    I cant agree with this. If he wanted a group of young guys with a veteran that is a great role model, he got it. They gave him too much with Butler, Rondo and Wade, three guys not looking to be embarrassed playing like a college team. You get a cast of nobodies and they would not run the system either. I dont know how Dunn is going to do on any offense since he also has a tendency to just dribble the ball up and shoot.
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    Fred deserved to be fired but the timing is weird. Its like someone just woke up and was like "Fred, you're fired" Maybe he asked to be let go? I figured they'd let him coach out the season.
    I am thinking maybe someone else called asking for permission to talk to Boylen and they felt they needed to make the move themselves.

    Either that or he blamed Garpax for the bad roster.
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    I cant agree with this. If he wanted a group of young guys with a veteran that is a great role model, he got it. They gave him too much with Butler, Rondo and Wade, three guys not looking to be embarrassed playing like a college team. You get a cast of nobodies and they would not run the system either. I dont know how Dunn is going to do on any offense since he also has a tendency to just dribble the ball up and shoot.
    It's like you didn't even bother to read what I posted.
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    Just wondering if there is ever a scenario where Gar/Pax get fired? Just how many fuck ups are they allowed?

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    Just wondering if there is ever a scenario where Gar/Pax get fired? Just how many fuck ups are they allowed?
    Jerry doesn't care. Profits are high and people still go to the UC to watch the games. Unless he sells the team, this seems to be par for the course.

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    Jerry doesn't care. Profits are high and people still go to the UC to watch the games. Unless he sells the team, this seems to be par for the course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diehardfan View Post
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    Just wondering if there is ever a scenario where Gar/Pax get fired? Just how many fuck ups are they allowed?
    Paxson physically assaulted a coach and got promoted!

    I'd say the only thing that could bring them down is if they were caught on tape saying racist things or sexually assaulted someone. That would create enough outcry and unrest for Jerry to do something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axl Rose View Post
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    Paxson physically assaulted a coach and got promoted!

    I'd say the only thing that could bring them down is if they were caught on tape saying racist things or sexually assaulted someone. That would create enough outcry and unrest for Jerry to do something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gustavus Adolphus View Post
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    It's like you didn't even bother to read what I posted.
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    I'll say this about Fred: I was excited to see if his offensive concepts would work with the team. I thought they could, but for whatever reason, he never got a fair shake with the lineup they were putting around him.
    He got vets, it did not work they were alpha males. All those are gone, paid 30 some million to Wade and Rondo to go away so they get G leaguers and rookies and it still does not work?

    What am I missing with what you wrote, he needed less veterans and more rookies or more rookies and less veterans? Neither scenario worked. So less veterans and he benches lopez while Gar Pax wanted Carter Jr to watch and learn from Lopez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diehardfan View Post
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    Just wondering if there is ever a scenario where Gar/Pax get fired? Just how many fuck ups are they allowed?
    Maybe when Jerry dies, and Michael Reinsdorf isn't Jerry's clone.

    If Michael is his clone, we'll be like this for a long long time.
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    Good theory i read on blogabull: They fired Fred now so it would get buried under the Bears loss and they wouldn't have to face the wrath of why they (garpax) get to keep their jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axl Rose View Post
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    Good theory i read on blogabull: They fired Fred now so it would get buried under the Bears loss and they wouldn't have to face the wrath of why they (garpax) get to keep their jobs.
    What a time to be alive when a Bears loss is big enough news to bury other news under, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimson View Post
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    What a time to be alive when a Bears loss is big enough news to bury other news under, lol.
    Maybe that’s why they didn’t wait until Christmas the bears losing to a three win team was good enough to cover this up lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axl Rose View Post
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    Good theory i read on blogabull: They fired Fred now so it would get buried under the Bears loss and they wouldn't have to face the wrath of why they (garpax) get to keep their jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoot26 View Post
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    Maybe when Jerry dies, and Michael Reinsdorf isn't Jerry's clone.

    If Michael is his clone, we'll be like this for a long long time.
    Loyalty is admirable but when it borders on insanity and stupidity...maybe it's time to step down. Hopefully Michael is to Jerry what Rocky was to Dollar Bill.

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    He got vets, it did not work they were alpha males. All those are gone, paid 30 some million to Wade and Rondo to go away so they get G leaguers and rookies and it still does not work?

    What am I missing with what you wrote, he needed less veterans and more rookies or more rookies and less veterans? Neither scenario worked. So less veterans and he benches lopez while Gar Pax wanted Carter Jr to watch and learn from Lopez.

    I get I am an idiot, but you keep nagging at me like an old lady on menopause. Set your goals higher than trying to be smarter than an idiot.
    My point was that the roster never fit with what he wanted to do offensively. You said you disagreed with what I said, but then went on to explain what you meant by talking about how the roster never fit for him. Essentially, we agreed on the trouble Fred had with the roster, yet you said you disagree.

    That's why I asked if you even read what I posted, because we basically agree on how/why Fred struggled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axl Rose View Post
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    Good theory i read on blogabull: They fired Fred now so it would get buried under the Bears loss and they wouldn't have to face the wrath of why they (garpax) get to keep their jobs.
    I wanted to say that this is silly, but then again they did an end of season press conference 20 minutes after game 82. That same night the Warriors were going for 73, and it was Kobe's last game. Both of those were home games for the Warriors and Lakers, so you know most media was glued to those games.

    I think that was Fred's first year.
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    Can someone please edit my typo in the title. It's been bugging me ever since this morning, lol. Won't let me edit anymore.

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    They probably got too much shit for firing coaches on Christmas lol
    This is probably a christmas present for him. He gets paid to sit his ass at home and not coach this shitty team.

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