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    Default How about Girardi as Cubs manager in 2020?

    If the Cubs dont extend Maddon's contract past 2019, how about hiring Girardi? Former Cub, great manager with the Yankees Illinois native

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    If maddon is gone I'm sure he'll be considered but I don't get the rush to push Maddon out the door. He's had less support from his organization than girardi and he's won more. Obviously that's mostly a case of Maddon in Tampa but I think people over look what he was handed the past 4 years with the cubs. it was a super young team that had talent but there's a lot of teams that don't fair anywhere near as well as quickly as the cubs did.

    That's not to say you can't consider replacing Maddon but if it's not someone obviously better I'm not sure I see the point. And frankly I'm not even sure who would be obviously better.

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    I think the fact the Girardi is out the is part of why the Cubs haven't extended Maddon already. The hitting and pitching coaches have been replaced the last two off seasons. If players don't progress, right or not, I think Maddon will be let go and the Cubs have their eye on Girardi to replace him.

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    If Girardi is available, and Maddon isn't kept, it's basically 100% that Girardi will be managing the Cubs. Managing the Cubs is Girardi's dream job.

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    People dont see the rush to move Joe, but if you are going to do it, they just need to do it.

    The cubs won game 7 in spite of what Maddon tried to do with Chapman.

    The Morrow injury, he was told do not use him 3 days in a row.

    The Strop hammy injury, just plain dumb.

    What happened to the magicians, jugglers, petting zoos? They all went away with Davey Martinez.

    Things are adding up and I am sure Theo feels like he should have been in three world series by now with this team.

    I think Theo is hoping for a retirement or Joe choosing to go.
    109 years since the last back to back world titles

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimJohnson View Post
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    If Girardi is available, and Maddon isn't kept, it's basically 100% that Girardi will be managing the Cubs. Managing the Cubs is Girardi's dream job.
    Dream job that he already had one crack at and passed up for the Yankees?

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    I think if you're looking for Joe to be gone and replaced, which is by no means a fait accompli at this point, Tory Lovullo is a better name to watch. Arizona is rebuilding and he's the young analytics centered guy they'd be looking for. I wouldn't rule out Girardi, but Lovullo seems to be a better fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatbeard View Post
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    Dream job that he already had one crack at and passed up for the Yankees?
    Not sure about that. I think Cubs just preferred Lou Piniella.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimJohnson View Post
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    Not sure about that. I think Cubs just preferred Lou Piniella.
    And what makes you think they'll prefer Girardi this time around?

    You're making my point for me.

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    Clearly the replacement is Ozzie Guillen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatbeard View Post
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    And what makes you think they'll prefer Girardi this time around?

    You're making my point for me.
    What do you have against Girardi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimJohnson View Post
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    Not sure about that. I think Cubs just preferred Lou Piniella.
    Joe was unproven in a big market. Lou is big market. Hendry went with the safe bet.

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    If Joe decides to be a FA Guardi becomes the next manager. I see Theo asking Joe to coach more vs be the voice of the team. IDK how that really went over with Joe next year. Far more likely we get Guardi managing the team with a hands on approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSF77 View Post
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    If Joe decides to be a FA Guardi becomes the next manager. I see Theo asking Joe to coach more vs be the voice of the team. IDK how that really went over with Joe next year. Far more likely we get Guardi managing the team with a hands on approach.
    As long as Girardi is still available. That's the key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimJohnson View Post
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    As long as Girardi is still available. That's the key.
    Pretty sure he passed on the Reds for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimJohnson View Post
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    What do you have against Girardi?
    Nothing, I'm just pointing out the weaknesses in the narrative that Girardi coming here is a foregone conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatbeard View Post
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    Nothing, I'm just pointing out the weaknesses in the narrative that Girardi coming here is a foregone conclusion.
    I said it above but Torey Lovullo actually makes more sense than Girardi if they go that way and he's also a lame duck manager on a rebuilding club no less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSF77 View Post
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    Pretty sure he passed on the Reds for a reason.
    The most likely explanation is that he passed on the Reds because they're a shitty organization with a shitty team in a shitty city to which he has absolutely no connection, not some long game to end up as the Cubs next manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatbeard View Post
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    The most likely explanation is that he passed on the Reds because they're a shitty organization with a shitty team in a shitty city to which he has absolutely no connection, not some long game to end up as the Cubs next manager.
    Not many teams come to mind for him next year.

    Anyways if he felt that way they wouldn’t have gone as far as a interview. Imo it coincides with Maddon’s Last year and the firing of his hitting coach and pitching coach steps down for “personal reasons”. After Theo pulls the you need to coach and goes more self developed coaching. (Hitting coach came up through system also)

    Honestly it was a perfect storm brewing for Joe G. Taking the Reds job would have blown a opertunity with a bad team. But that team did well under dusty so it really comes down to more or less payroll available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garapp View Post
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    If the Cubs dont extend Maddon's contract past 2019, how about hiring Girardi? Former Cub, great manager with the Yankees Illinois native
    Maddon could be replaced in 2019 whether it Girardi or someone else..

    Have to think if this team struggles at any point, theyll pull the plug on Maddon..
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    With all the generic type coaches hire this offseason, have to think the percentage is pretty low that their considering to extend him past this year..

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