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NFL teammates pranking Kyler Murray at training camp next summer
By far the best post in this thread
NFL teammates pranking Kyler Murray at training camp next summer
Ugh? The comparison between Jackson and Murray is that they are both dangerous runners. That's it. Jackson was an athlete playing QB. Murray isn't exactly Andrew Luck but he has much more complete QB skill set for todays RPO heavy nfl.
Jackson was drafted 32nd in a very top heavy QB class as the 5th QB. This years QB crop is considerably weaker than the last few years, and Murray has a shot to be QB #1 in this draft. Jackson was QB #5. Always teams trying to trade up to take a QB in the top 10 because they are scared another team might jump them.
NFL teammates pranking Kyler Murray at training camp next summer
By far the best post in this thread
He’s also only 195 lbs
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Ugh? The comparison between Jackson and Murray is that they are both dangerous runners. That's it. Jackson was an athlete playing QB. Murray isn't exactly Andrew Luck but he has much more complete QB skill set for todays RPO heavy nfl.
Jackson was drafted 32nd in a very top heavy QB class as the 5th QB. This years QB crop is considerably weaker than the last few years, and Murray has a shot to be QB #1 in this draft. Jackson was QB #5. Always teams trying to trade up to take a QB in the top 10 because they are scared another team might jump them.
Fun Fact that I just learned: Kyler’s father was the hitter who was facing Randy Johnson when that bird was murdered.
Turns out, I was wrong. It appears the player at bat was Kyler's uncle.
My apologies for the confusion.
You are wrong so often, I'm going to start referring to you as The Winman.
What does this statement even mean, specifically? What about Murray's skill set is 'more complete' than Jackson's (or Luck's?!)? What NFL QBs who are currently successful in the alleged "RPO heavy nfl" does Murray compare favorably to?
You're back. Nice.
Andrew Luck had an elite passing skillset coming out of college.
Lamar Jackson is basically a plus version of Tim Tebow. Bad passer at all levels but great runner.
Murray is much more skilled and developed as a passer, his only major passing struggle, as already discussed in this thread, is throwing down the short to intermediate middle since he prob can't see the play develop.
I'm curious how many teams actually run the RPO in the "RPO heavy NFL"
Same here. Dennehy said that NFL teams would have to adjust their offense to give Murray a better chance to succeed, whereas msadows is saying that NFL teams already run Oklahoma's offense. I must have not seen as much NFL games as I thought, because I cannot recall this, but who knows?
Apparently not me, based on my new moniker.
Ugh?
Weird comment. Glad my CCS comings and goings are being monitored. I never left, I've just been posting with my alt account to change things up.
Wow, didn't know that.
Great comp to Tebow. Also the bad passer/great runner scouting report for Jackson is insightful.
LOL at the bolded. It wasn't "discussed". You didn't even say it (obviously). Dennehy (bless him) actually went into specifics of Murray's game in Post #35. I agree with Dennehy's assessment. I'm still not sure what you are trying to say about Murray, though.
First, you initially said that Murray had a 'more complete skillset' than Jackson. You still don't really address this...what about Murray, specifically, is more 'complete' than Jackson? Also, you now say that is Murray more 'developed' than Jackson, but Murray has about 1/3 of the starts and 1/2 the attempts that Jackson had in college. Huh?
Again, since you seemingly forgot half my post despite quoting it, what NFL QBs who are currently successful in the alleged "RPO heavy nfl" does Murray compare favorably to?
The problem with Murray is that he limits what you can do on offense; you need to build a specific system for him based around his athleticism and arm strength. It pretty much has to be a shotgun system. He's too short to come out from under center and find lanes for a quick slant with consistency, for example. It's why even at college his success from the pocket came on deep, long developing routes where he could show case his ability to get the ball deep in a hurry and with accuracy. But he's not built for quick routes to the middle of the field imo.
That doesn't mean he can't be a really good QB, it just means you need a flexible offensive system that takes advantage of what he can do.