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    I'm also shocked you didn't list spencer ware.

    Edit: Guess you just listed linemen.

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    To each their own, I think his awareness is fucking horrible for the tackle position. This year was by far his best of his career, and it wasn't even that good. I guess he is younger than Massie, thats all he really has on him.
    No ones saying J James is great, but he could come in at half the price of Massie and be just as good under his old coach with upside. Average to good RTs get 10mil a season. I saw some terrible ex Bears starting for other teams this season. Bushrod, Tom Compton, Ducasse, Jordan Mills, more? Thereís a big shortage of OL talent across the league and thereís no quick fix to that without those top picks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by legendxofxlink View Post
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    No ones saying J James is great, but he could come in at half the price of Massie and be just as good under his old coach with upside. Average to good RTs get 10mil a season. I saw some terrible ex Bears starting for other teams this season. Bushrod, Tom Compton, Ducasse, Jordan Mills, more? There’s a big shortage of OL talent across the league and there’s no quick fix to that without those top picks.
    Honestly? I think Massie ends up getting less money than him. Massie isn't getting 10m a season, he is 30 and on the decline of his career. I wouldn't be shocked to see James get more money then him just because teams are intrigued by his "upside".

    I don't want either of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msadows View Post
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    To each their own, I think his awareness is fucking horrible for the tackle position. This year was by far his best of his career, and it wasn't even that good. I guess he is younger than Massie, thats all he really has on him.
    Massie is gone. They canít afford him.

    I am shopping for a legit backup to push Coward and to step in if he or a draft pick are not ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msadows View Post
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    Honestly? I think Massie ends up getting less money than him. Massie isn't getting 10m a season, he is 30 and on the decline of his career. I wouldn't be shocked to see James get more money then him just because teams are intrigued by his "upside".

    I don't want either of them.
    I actually think you are right, both get over paid to be average OTs on their best days.

    Jake Fisher to me is a guy who may be a change of scenery/coach guy with a little upside if healthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCity View Post
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    I actually think you are right, both get over paid to be average OTs on their best days.

    Jake Fisher to me is a guy who may be a change of scenery/coach guy with a little upside if healthy.
    I wouldn't mind that, just need to make it a healthy competition, along with right guard as well.

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    Cam Fleming had a decent year with NE last year, iirc, and then was the backup swing in Dallas last year. Would be interesting at the price he'll probably command.

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    RBs

    Spencer Ware [KC]
    Chandrick West [KC]
    Kareem Hunt [KC]
    Mark Ingram [NO]
    Kenjon Barner [Car] *Oregon
    Alfred Blue [Hou] Charles London

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    Edge

    Terrell Suggs [Baltimore]
    Shaq Barrett [Denver]
    Dee Ford [KC] *way too expensive
    Za'Darius Smith [Baltimore] *way too expensive

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCity View Post
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    Massie is gone. They can’t afford him.

    I am shopping for a legit backup to push Coward and to step in if he or a draft pick are not ready.
    You think so? I thought that even him playing well this past year, I don't think he'll command huge money given his age and never really having been a top-end RT. But he seems to do well in Nagy's system. What do you think his numbers look like and how much do you think the Bears would sink into the RT position?

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    Quote Originally Posted by legendxofxlink View Post
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    No ones saying J James is great, but he could come in at half the price of Massie and be just as good under his old coach with upside. Average to good RTs get 10mil a season. I saw some terrible ex Bears starting for other teams this season. Bushrod, Tom Compton, Ducasse, Jordan Mills, more? There’s a big shortage of OL talent across the league and there’s no quick fix to that without those top picks.

    There is one RT that gets more than 10m a year Lane Johnson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazu2324 View Post
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    You think so? I thought that even him playing well this past year, I don't think he'll command huge money given his age and never really having been a top-end RT. But he seems to do well in Nagy's system. What do you think his numbers look like and how much do you think the Bears would sink into the RT position?
    He is making 6 million right now, so that would probably be the floor. Chris Hubbard got 7/season out of the Browns last season so that seems like what Massie should and would ask for.

    I think if you gave Nagy an option he would want a better athlete.

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    Here are the top salaries for RTs


    PLAYER AVERAGE
    1 Lane Johnson

    RIGHT TACKLE
    $11,252,000
    2 Ricky Wagner

    RIGHT TACKLE
    $9,500,000
    3 Donald Penn

    RIGHT TACKLE
    $9,350,000
    4 Rob Havenstein

    RIGHT TACKLE
    $8,125,000
    5 Morgan Moses

    RIGHT TACKLE
    $7,700,000
    La'el Collins

    RIGHT TACKLE
    $7,700,000
    7 Chris Hubbard

    RIGHT TACKLE
    $7,300,000
    8 Jared Veldheer

    RIGHT TACKLE
    $7,000,000
    9 Bryan Bulaga

    RIGHT TACKLE
    $6,750,000
    10 Mitchell Schwartz

    RIGHT TACKLE
    $6,600,000
    11 Marcus Cannon

    RIGHT TACKLE
    $6,482,000
    12 Jermey Parnell

    RIGHT TACKLE
    $6,400,000
    13 Ryan Schraeder

    RIGHT TACKLE
    $6,300,000
    14 Marcus Gilbert

    RIGHT TACKLE
    $6,163,000
    15 Bobby Massie

    RIGHT TACKLE
    $6,000,000
    16 Demar Dotson

    RIGHT TACKLE
    $5,500,000
    17 Mike McGlinchey

    RIGHT TACKLE
    $4,585,430
    18 James Hurst

    RIGHT TACKLE
    $4,375,000
    19 Seantrel Henderson

    RIGHT TACKLE
    $4,000,000
    20 Jack Conklin

    RIGHT TACKLE
    $3,974,415

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sculpt View Post
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    Hey Windy?

    What's the chances we can give Parkey and his contract to a team with a worse FG kicker, give for nothing or make some deal that works?

    And then try to sign Robbie Gould, who just said in a podcast he wants to retire a Bear?
    As if one even exists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan View Post
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    As if one even exists.
    Chris Boswell (Pitt) and Dan Bailey (Minn) kind of sucked more this year.

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    My guess is Massie gets 3 years 21 million/8-10 guaranteed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuder O'Clam View Post
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    Chris Boswell (Pitt) and Dan Bailey (Minn) kind of sucked more this year.

    Do you honestly thing they would trade for Parkey...cause contract problems to get almost the exact same production....The Vikings would go over the cap to gain the rights for Parkey.....and the Steelers wouls use up a 1/3 of their salary cap for the rights to the great Cody Parkey....they could sign their own shitty kicker for half the price back.....


    only on CCS

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    Quote Originally Posted by modo View Post
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    Do you honestly thing they would trade for Parkey...cause contract problems to get almost the exact same production....The Vikings would go over the cap to gain the rights for Parkey.....and the Steelers wouls use up a 1/3 of their salary cap for the rights to the great Cody Parkey....they could sign their own shitty kicker for half the price back.....


    only on CCS
    Lol, you really went with this. I only responded to what Spartan said. In no way was I talking about trades, or anything you rambled on about.

    Lol. Only on CCS

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    Quote Originally Posted by modo View Post
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    Do you honestly thing they would trade for Parkey...cause contract problems to get almost the exact same production....The Vikings would go over the cap to gain the rights for Parkey.....and the Steelers wouls use up a 1/3 of their salary cap for the rights to the great Cody Parkey....they could sign their own shitty kicker for half the price back.....


    only on CCS
    The Bears are going to eat the Parkey money. Sometimes the medicine tastes bad.

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    What's up with all this connection shit?

    Is there some kind of recent run on big name FAs taking less money than another team because they have a connection with a coach on a team that is offering less years and/or salary and bonus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlaw Josey Cutler View Post
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    What's up with all this connection shit?

    Is there some kind of recent run on big name FAs taking less money than another team because they have a connection with a coach on a team that is offering less years and/or salary and bonus?
    No, big money free agents often take the most money.

    In the range of free agency that we are looking at, low contracts, coaching connections and scheme fit often will trump a couple of 100k on the deal.

    The Bears are not going to be high bidders so they need to sell the scheme and the personal connections.

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    I'm not so sure

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