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    Parkeys deal is horrendous.

    But even if we trade him the cap hit for the guaranteed money stays with us.

    If he has offsets, it will provide little relief as he will at best get the minimum from someone.
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    The Bears are going to eat the Parkey money. Sometimes the medicine tastes bad.
    I have to assume Bears are going to cut and eat the Parkey money too. That's why I'm asking these shitty questions.

    Considering the lack of Bears $$, do you think a draft pick or UDFA are the Bears only viable options?

    You wrote of trade, "If he has offsets"... what do you mean by that? Would giving Parkey to another team actually give some, better than nothing, relief?
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    Jeff Allen has a tattoo of a lion. Heís out.

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    My #1 priority is Bryce Callahan.

    If the Bears are going to be more aggressive and blitz more we need 3 strong CBs and Callahan is good in man and is an excellent blitzer.

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    I have to assume Bears are going to cut and eat the Parkey money too. That's why I'm asking these shitty questions.

    Considering the lack of Bears $$, do you think a draft pick or UDFA are the Bears only viable options?

    You wrote of trade, "If he has offsets"... what do you mean by that? Would giving Parkey to another team actually give some, better than nothing, relief?
    I would not be shocked if Pace chose to go cheap and replaceable at K.

    If you are not tied to a guy you can make a move if it goes off the rails like Parkey. After Detroit guys should have been at Halas Hall and probably one should have been signed, they were not because of Parkey's contract.

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    Could always bring Andy Phillips back on the cheap.

    He's out there kicking 43 yarders with his wrong foot.




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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCity View Post
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    My #1 priority is Bryce Callahan.

    If the Bears are going to be more aggressive and blitz more we need 3 strong CBs and Callahan is good in man and is an excellent blitzer.
    Was reading last week that Pagano prefers the 3 Safety look over the typical nickle defense. Wonder if that will change the priority from Callahan to Amos.

    We would need Jackson, Bush, Amos for that "big nickle" look...

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    I think the Bears will go O line in the draft. Push to re-sign Callahan, let everyone else walk.

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    One must wonder what a year of improvement is going to do for some players. The way I see it, we need to secure starters at OG (Long), RT, NB and SS. If we can focus on resigning Callahan and Amos, and draft for OL, the rest of our money can go to depth signings.
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    My #1 priority is Bryce Callahan.

    If the Bears are going to be more aggressive and blitz more we need 3 strong CBs and Callahan is good in man and is an excellent blitzer.
    Mcmanis filled the role well, im more focused on Amos
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    Mcmanis filled the role well, im more focused on Amos
    Anthony Harris has better range and instinct he is also a better tackler and is always around the ball unlike Amos who disappears.
    Will be cheaper too. You steal him from the Vikings and you're making the division weaker while making the team better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wazzupi View Post
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    Anthony Harris has better range and instinct he is also a better tackler and is always around the ball unlike Amos who disappears.
    Will be cheaper too. You steal him from the Vikings and you're making the division weaker while making the team better.
    Why would he be cheaper if he is better than Amos?
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    Why would he be cheaper if he is better than Amos?
    Limited playing time he was behind two good safeties(not my opinion)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrideisBears View Post
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    Mcmanis filled the role well, im more focused on Amos
    He was a downgrade. He was not bad, but you could tell the difference.

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    The winning TD for Philly was against McManis, BTW.

    Not blaming him alone. I like him for what his role has been. But trying to start him is absolutely the Peter Principle.

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    No, big money free agents often take the most money.

    In the range of free agency that we are looking at, low contracts, coaching connections and scheme fit often will trump a couple of 100k on the deal.

    The Bears are not going to be high bidders so they need to sell the scheme and the personal connections.
    Instead of being out in front and making signings in the first week of free agency Pace will now be better off waiting guys out when their price starts dropping cause there sitting out there too long. There are always ways for teams to create more cap space by re-doing some contracts on guys like Mack or Goldman or Fuller or anyone with a larger contract so i could see Pace doing something to create space to make a bigger signing early but i'm really hoping we have guys on the team now that can step up and replace any starter we lose like D.Bush or D.Houston Carson taking over for Amos (if we don't re-sign him) or S.McManis taking over for Callahan (if we lose him) and so on so we can get some comp. picks in 2020 to help make up for the picks we'll be without in 2019 and 2020. I think Pace has done a good job making us a pretty deep team and with so many great players on this defense i think we could get away with going with Bush or McManis starting. I really like that Kevin Tolliver #22 kid that took over for Prince when he was out to but see him as strictly a CB and not NB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCity View Post
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    My #1 priority is Bryce Callahan.

    If the Bears are going to be more aggressive and blitz more we need 3 strong CBs and Callahan is good in man and is an excellent blitzer.
    I think Amos is a better investment acutally. He's reliable and has been extremely healthy. Callahan, on the other hand, has far too often injured to give a big deal to. I also wonder how Callahan will fair with new coaches/scheme?

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    I'd get Massie back on a couple years...I'd rather not turn over the right side to a 1 year converted DT and a career backup.

    If money permits, then Callahan or Amos.

    If you can sign Hunt cheap then Howard becomes expendable, but I wouldn't get rid of Howard for a subpar backup RB.

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    I think Amos is a better investment acutally. He's reliable and has been extremely healthy. Callahan, on the other hand, has far too often injured to give a big deal to. I also wonder how Callahan will fair with new coaches/scheme?
    I am just not as convinced he has the man coverage skills to really thrive in the system. In the Fangio deep 2 he was fine, because not very often was he in coverage.

    But the Eagles targeted him when he had to play Man when Jackson was injured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCity View Post
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    I am just not as convinced he has the man coverage skills to really thrive in the system. In the Fangio deep 2 he was fine, because not very often was he in coverage.

    But the Eagles targeted him when he had to play Man when Jackson was injured.
    None of what you said trumps injury concern though. Also from what I read on Pagano's system and its differences from Fangio, the safeties will not be asked to do much more man coverage but the ILBs might face more man coverage.

    I don't know what Pagano thinks he can get from Amos compared to Callahan but I am sure of 2 things:

    1) he will be in on meetings regarding needs for the defense and which if either to bring back.
    2) No one here knows how much more valuable the other will be to Pagano. Educated suppositions sure but knowledge? Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCity View Post
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    I am just not as convinced he has the man coverage skills to really thrive in the system. In the Fangio deep 2 he was fine, because not very often was he in coverage.

    But the Eagles targeted him when he had to play Man when Jackson was injured.
    Amos is 2 years younger than Callahan, was in on 5 turnovers this year counting the pop up to Fuller, and unlike the always dinged up Callahan he's been pretty healthy. I'd love to keep both, but keeping that safety tandem in the back is important and there's already ALOT of money tied up in the starting 2 corners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by legendxofxlink View Post
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    Amos is 2 years younger than Callahan, was in on 5 turnovers this year counting the pop up to Fuller, and unlike the always dinged up Callahan he's been pretty healthy. I'd love to keep both, but keeping that safety tandem in the back is important and there's already ALOT of money tied up in the starting 2 corners.
    All very good points.

    I would not be mad if they picked Amos over Callahan.

    Although I do think that Deon Bush is more ready for a full time role than I think McManis can hold up in the spot over 16 games.

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