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    Default Anthony Davis OFFICIALLY demands a trade: What are you willing to give up?

    Let's see those offers!

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    To the Lakers makes the most sense (both on paper, financially and from an asset standpoint). We all know LeBron's already been in his ear.

    Lakers trade Lonzo, Ingram, Caldwell-Pope and a protected first for Davis. Salaries match almost to the dollar. Pelicans get about 80 cents on the dollar for Davis (which is likely as high as you'll get unless Boston wants to finally get into the cache of assets). Davis gets a shot to ring chase. Lakers keep Kuzma and Hart with the flexibility to add two B-tier assets going forward or one more home-run.

    A move to Boston likely won't happen without a third team chipping in some salary, but the question then would by why would any team willingly help the Lakers inch towards a "super team"? It's not like they'll need any help once FA hits.

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    This situation screams Lakers to me. At this point, I'll be surprised if he ends up anywhere else. Can't see Boston or Houston getting him. Not sure what other team would even be in play. OKC perhaps? Probably not enough assets.

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    The Lakers offer seems like garbage to me. Ball is terrible, Kuzma is just..a guy, a good one..but a guy..and no way in hell the Pels agree to any kind of pick protection.

    If that's the best offer teams like Philly, Boston, and Chicago could beat it. Hell, the Nets could too. Obviously BRON is in LA but is that a thing for AD?

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    I think Chicago can beat that offer but if he doesn't sign an extension, that sets the Bulls back 5+ years
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    The Lakers offer seems like garbage to me. Ball is terrible, Kuzma is just..a guy, a good one..but a guy..and no way in hell the Pels agree to any kind of pick protection.

    If that's the best offer teams like Philly, Boston, and Chicago could beat it. Hell, the Nets could too. Obviously BRON is in LA but is that a thing for AD?
    The Lakers seem to value Kuzma much higher than other organizations. I think they know if they want their offer to be taken seriously, it'll come down to them including Ingram because his improvement is much more recognizable and he's the only one in that group that seems to inching towards All-Star potential.

    Lonzo's situation is a bit more interesting. Firstly, the Jason Kidd comps (just because neither could shoot early in their careers) is just careless. Lonzo is a real liability if he's not trying to get to the basket. His percentages are up a bit from last year, but the problem with injuries and an inability to get any continuity with LeBron is troubling. Stylistically, he fits well with LeBron because his first instinct is to be a facilitator. He's also shown some defensive chops and has elite size for the position. I always felt that he'd end up being a "change of scenery" guy because of his lunatic dad over-hyping him out of the gate and the spotlight was never going away if he stays in LA.

    Davis is represented by Rich Paul (who represents LeBron, Ben Simmons, etc) so there's that piece of low-hanging fruit as well. Davis appears tired of losing, which is kind of unfortunate because this Pels team is pretty interesting and fun on paper. They just never seem to have all the cylinders firing at once. Holiday or Davis always seems to get nicked up. They can't find that third true All-Star level guy to come in there (because nobody wants to play in New Orleans).

    It comes down to the small-market teams never having enough clout to keep their own guys unless all that player cares about is money. Davis has had his foot out the door for almost a year. The longer they wait to trade him, the less leverage they have. Try and nab 80 cents on the dollar and move on.

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    The Lakers seem to value Kuzma much higher than other organizations. I think they know if they want their offer to be taken seriously, it'll come down to them including Ingram because his improvement is much more recognizable and he's the only one in that group that seems to inching towards All-Star potential.

    Lonzo's situation is a bit more interesting. Firstly, the Jason Kidd comps (just because neither could shoot early in their careers) is just careless. Lonzo is a real liability if he's not trying to get to the basket. His percentages are up a bit from last year, but the problem with injuries and an inability to get any continuity with LeBron is troubling. Stylistically, he fits well with LeBron because his first instinct is to be a facilitator. He's also shown some defensive chops and has elite size for the position. I always felt that he'd end up being a "change of scenery" guy because of his lunatic dad over-hyping him out of the gate and the spotlight was never going away if he stays in LA.

    Davis is represented by Rich Paul (who represents LeBron, Ben Simmons, etc) so there's that piece of low-hanging fruit as well. Davis appears tired of losing, which is kind of unfortunate because this Pels team is pretty interesting and fun on paper. They just never seem to have all the cylinders firing at once. Holiday or Davis always seems to get nicked up. They can't find that third true All-Star level guy to come in there (because nobody wants to play in New Orleans).

    It comes down to the small-market teams never having enough clout to keep their own guys unless all that player cares about is money. Davis has had his foot out the door for almost a year. The longer they wait to trade him, the less leverage they have. Try and nab 80 cents on the dollar and move on.
    Agree on all of the above. Ball is broken..then again he always kind of has been.

    Talking with some other people and I'd agree the Pels will likely want a star/headliner coming back so you have: NYK, Bos, Philly.

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    Agree on all of the above. Ball is broken..then again he always kind of has been.

    Talking with some other people and I'd agree the Pels will likely want a star/headliner coming back so you have: NYK, Bos, Philly.
    I've been saying forever that a trade involving Ben Simmons and Davis would give me a gnarly boner. Matching salaries would be tough unless you involved a third team. Ditto with Boston. Boston's package would be more well rounded (that's what she said) as far as young, cheap assets with high ceilings and unprotected picks, but I'm still flabbergasted at Ainge's unwillingness to dip into the pool yet. I have no idea what he's waiting for.

    The prospect of Davis in New York is cool because he and Porzingis would be absolutely ridiculous and impossible to defend. They could make salaries work, but I'm not sure the level of prospects they would offer is enough to entice the Pelicans, even if they threw in this year's pick which is almost certain to be Top 3.

    Knox, Mudiay, Kanter's expiring deal plus this year's unprotected first? Ehh....

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    I've been saying forever that a trade involving Ben Simmons and Davis would give me a gnarly boner. Matching salaries would be tough unless you involved a third team. Ditto with Boston. Boston's package would be more well rounded (that's what she said) as far as young, cheap assets with high ceilings and unprotected picks, but I'm still flabbergasted at Ainge's unwillingness to dip into the pool yet. I have no idea what he's waiting for.

    The prospect of Davis in New York is cool because he and Porzingis would be absolutely ridiculous and impossible to defend. They could make salaries work, but I'm not sure the level of prospects they would offer is enough to entice the Pelicans, even if they threw in this year's pick which is almost certain to be Top 3.

    Knox, Mudiay, Kanter's expiring deal plus this year's unprotected first? Ehh....
    I'd think the Pels would want Porzingis back in the deal, just IMO. I think beyond the first tier with STARS to offer we could make the best package.

    Put our top 5 guys(Lauri, LaVine, Carter, Dunn, and Portis) on a piece of paper and our next few draft picks and tell the Pels to choose any combination of 4 guys they want.

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    I'd think the Pels would want Porzingis back in the deal, just IMO. I think beyond the first tier with STARS to offer we could make the best package.

    Put our top 5 guys(Lauri, LaVine, Carter, Dunn, and Portis) on a piece of paper and our next few draft picks and tell the Pels to choose any combination of 4 guys they want.
    I just think there's zero merit Davis even wants to be here. There's such an open dialogue between players in regards to management and ownership. These guys talk all year, they spill the beans on things that bother them, about in ability to spend money, etc. Davis knows the Buss family will spend money to build a winner and Magic Johnson has the clout to recruit anyone.

    As we've seen with the Bulls, they continually have to settle for cast-offs and guys that are a step below great (Boozer, Parker, overpaying guys like Deng, LaVinee). Plus, with how GarPax handled the situations with Parker and Lopez and the entire coaching debacle, who on Earth would come here (again, unless it's strictly a money decision).

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    I just think there's zero merit Davis even wants to be here. There's such an open dialogue between players in regards to management and ownership. These guys talk all year, they spill the beans on things that bother them, about in ability to spend money, etc. Davis knows the Buss family will spend money to build a winner and Magic Johnson has the clout to recruit anyone.

    As we've seen with the Bulls, they continually have to settle for cast-offs and guys that are a step below great (Boozer, Parker, overpaying guys like Deng, LaVinee). Plus, with how GarPax handled the situations with Parker and Lopez and the entire coaching debacle, who on Earth would come here (again, unless it's strictly a money decision).
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    Bulls are basically the Kings with terrible weather.

    No one wants to come here.

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    Bulls will get AD when he's 38 years old on the verge of retirement
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    Don't forget the HOMETOWN pitch!
    *Davis and Rich Paul in board room with GarPax, Boylen and Reinsdorf*

    Rich Paul: So what kind of culture can we expect in Chicago?

    Boylen: Man, we are gonna' practice HARD! Two-a-days after road back-to-backs. I'm talking windsprints, weight room, 5 hours of film, and shoot-around.

    GarPax: *In tandem* Won't it feel great to come back home to a roster full of guys who don't play defense, no elite shooters, guys who refuse to pass and a fan base who's so fedup being a revolving door?

    Davis: Wait... wha-

    Reinsdorf: And when we sign a handful of past-their-prime former All Stars like Rondo and Wade who whine about effort and we buyout and get nothing in return, you'll have a chance to be the star.

    Davis: But I'm already the star in New Orleans.

    Reinsdorf: Oh..... So, do I still own the White Sox?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axl Rose View Post
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    Bulls are basically the Kings with terrible weather.

    No one wants to come here.
    The Kings have a solid foundation. Hield and Fox are a solid backcourt. Labissire, Giles, Jackson and Bagley are all under the age of 23 and they have expiring deals with Randolph and Koufus that could yield a solid rental or future assets. They're definitely in a better position right now then the Bulls.

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    The Bulls could put together arguably the best package for him. Solid young player with high upside(Lauri) and a top 3 pick. Issue is he won’t want to come here.

    He can’t go to Boston yet unless they get rid of Kyrie due to the Rose rule. It would have to wait until summer. If I’m the Pelicans and I’m in talks with the Lakers, I demand Ball, Kuzma and one of: Hart, Zubac or Ingram along with a pick. If they aren’t budging, I’d just wait until the summer and get Tatum along with some other pieces.
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    The Bulls could put together arguably the best package for him. Solid young player with high upside(Lauri) and a top 3 pick. Issue is he won’t want to come here.

    He can’t go to Boston yet unless they get rid of Kyrie due to the Rose rule. It would have to wait until summer. If I’m the Pelicans and I’m in talks with the Lakers, I demand Ball, Kuzma and one of: Hart, Zubac or Ingram along with a pick. If they aren’t budging, I’d just wait until the summer and get Tatum along with some other pieces.
    But even with GarPax being arguably the worst management tandem in professional sports, even they wouldn't give up assets without Davis giving them the affirmation that he'll sign an extension. I just feel like unless it's a big market who is guaranteed to contend for the foreseeable future, he isn't going to entertain an extension.

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    Zion or bust. Celtics would be the best for the Pels IMO. Lakers are trash players and Boston have their pick, grizzles pick if not in top 8 and Kings pick number 1 protected.


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    No star wants to come here before the age of 35

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    no, you don't trade for Davis if you can't pair him with Lauri.

    Those two would be a problem together. Agile long front court that can shoot and rebound, AD defensive monster. Lavine would be protected with Davis behind him. Dunn, Portis or Carter...need those pieces too or don't bother.

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    Dunn, Carter, Lavine, every pick you got...

    but I don't think it gets it done and markennen is untouchable

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    Quote Originally Posted by clonetrooper264 View Post
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    Bulls will get AD when he's 38 years old on the verge of retirement
    Then we'll trade him and three 2nd round picks for cash considerations.

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