I don't think Belicheck gets enough credit for his defensive game plans..

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Belicheck gets plenty of credit, no doubt, but this is what happens when players WANT to play for an organization. When the best quarterback of all time settles to play this game for 15 million a year, who can go there and expect more.

As far as everyone hating the Patriots, sure seems like all 71,000 of their fans were the ones who could afford tickets to that game. It was a home game. Loud when the rams had the ball, quiet for Brady. We are witnessing something we may never see again as far as dominance in making the superbowl in 1/2 of the years of this regime of Belicheck and Brady.

As far as how great they have been, there should not even need to be a vote to get them in the hall of fame, or have any wait time, when they retire, they should automatically go in.
 

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Not sure about that, but would love to see Brady and Belichick apart to see who is chicken and who is egg.
Speaking of who to credit...

Interesting moment in the game was in the final 1:16, where Belichick, Brady and Daniels meet to decide what to do between kick the FG or go for a first down to run out the clock. It was a collective decision.
 

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Does more with less as well as we've ever seen...hard to name 5 players from their 'D', yet they shut the Rams down...not a fan, but you have to tip your hat.
 

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that Patriots defense had to contain one of the best offenses of all time in the AFC championship vs. the Chiefs too. I've known for a long time that he's a defensive genius, but the talent wasn't there for awhile. they fielded Super Bowl teams with bottom ranked defenses at least in Giants II and the Eagles game last year ... probably against the Falcons as well. so if those defenses weren't that great, then Brady had to get them there, right?

the only thing that probably matters is the Patriots are a well-oiled machine, they've taken a lot of old gears and put new ones in over a long time now. Brady has been the constant though. we don't need chicken or egg, we need to just accept they're all that good.
 

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He took Bears defensive game plan and they ran it to perfection. He wont dump ball off when pressured and forces downfield
 

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Well it is a lot easier when you opponent apparently learned nothing from previous games. Bellichek apparently just took the Lions game plan and executed it but somehow McVay couldn't foresee that and make sure he had a plan B in place. So much for his being a so called genius.
 

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He took Bears defensive game plan and they ran it to perfection. He wont dump ball off when pressured and forces downfield

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...erformance-history-here-how-patriots-did-rams

https://lionswire.usatoday.com/2019...or-showing-his-patriots-how-to-beat-the-rams/

“We felt like if we could make them drive it, make them earn it, similar to what the Lions did,” Belichick said in one of his postgame press addresses, as heard on the CBS radio feed. “Make them run a lot of plays and if we get them in third down, we felt like we could get them off the field.”

More likely he took the Lions gameplan. Bears just executed it better as did the Pats.
 

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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...erformance-history-here-how-patriots-did-rams

https://lionswire.usatoday.com/2019...or-showing-his-patriots-how-to-beat-the-rams/

“We felt like if we could make them drive it, make them earn it, similar to what the Lions did,” Belichick said in one of his postgame press addresses, as heard on the CBS radio feed. “Make them run a lot of plays and if we get them in third down, we felt like we could get them off the field.”

More likely he took the Lions gameplan. Bears just executed it better as did the Pats.

I thought it would be the team that didnt allow them in end zone...oops
 

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There are people calling him the greatest American sports coach of all time. I think he's getting plenty of credit haha
 

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Belichick is GOAT and everyone knows it. Nobody has ever come close with the castaways and reclamation projects he takes on.

He gets plenty of credit.
 

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He took Bears defensive game plan and they ran it to perfection. He wont dump ball off when pressured and forces downfield

They rarely had dump routes to check to. Half those pass plays, there was nobody within 10 yards of the LOS
 

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Belichick’s defenses are always so well disciplined. This is how you stop a bootleg...

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I think the fact that Belichick has instilled discipline in any defender he brings in is what makes him so great.

It's crazy to see his defensive cast-offs end up not doing anything in this league. Remember when Angelo picked up that 1 NE safety?
 

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Belichick's genius is all preparation. That D knows what is coming just about every play. And if they change it up, Beli abandons everything and changes up too.

Check out this article. Its good:

“The only sign we have in the locker room is from ‘The Art of War.’ ‘Every battle is won before it is fought.’ You [have to] know what the opponents can do, what their strengths and weaknesses are ... [and] what to do in every situation.”



Bill Belichick's Patriots are not about culture, just ruthlessness


The Rams had better players on Sunday, and the Patriots made those superior talents look inept and confused.

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ATLANTA – If there is a lesson to be learned from the New England Patriots’ dynasty, it is that anyone who uses the word “culture” should be sentenced to spend a week in a hotel ballroom listening to self-proclaimed motivational speakers use words like “synergy.” And “culture.”

Modern sports figures use the buzzword to imbue their work with new-age mystery, to pretend that every decision they make flows from some embedded and overarching wisdom.

Search the internet for “Bill Belichick” and “culture,” and what you find are analysts, journalists, current and former players and coaches invoking the word “culture” to describe what he’s built.

But it’s hard to find Belichick saying it.

Belichick doesn’t quote modern marketing terms. He quotes “The Art of War.”

The artistic part of the war that is defensive football was on display Sunday night, when Belichick and defensive coordinator Brian Flores shut down the celebrated Rams offense. The Patriots won 13-3, and the Rams never made it to the red zone.

How does Belichick win, year after year, while drafting at the bottom of every round?

Search through his interviews, and he talks about teamwork, preparation and attention to detail. He talks about relying on his most dependable players instead of his most spectacular athletes, and being adaptable during games.

He once agreed to an interview with the business network CNBC and said, “The only sign we have in the locker room is from ‘The Art of War.’ ‘Every battle is won before it is fought.’ You [have to] know what the opponents can do, what their strengths and weaknesses are ... [and] what to do in every situation.”

Belichick believes in exhaustive preparation, and ditching that preparation. He is beholden to no individual player or idea, with the possible exception of Tom Brady.

Belichick doesn’t believe in “culture.” He believes in ruthlessness.

That’s the problem with the term “culture” — it attempts to make a brutal business sound endearing. Some coaches try to instill a notion of a team as a family. But this is inherently false. You don’t trade your mother to Buffalo for a draft pick if she has a bad year. Belichick would trade or cut any player at any time if they stop serving his purposes.

Perhaps that’s why he doesn’t use flowery language. By avoiding stated philosophies, he is always free to make independent decisions.

The opposing team is weak against the run? Sony Michel will be his star. The opponent is weak against slot receivers? Cue up Julian Edelman. The opponent can’t cover tight ends downfield? Cue up Rob Gronkowski.

The Rams had better players on Sunday, and the Patriots made those superior talents look inept and confused.

Despite his team’s performance on Sunday, the Rams’ Sean McVay remains a bright young coach. But he might need to learn that his philosophies are not as valuable as an adaptation.

The Rams are built to run the ball and use play-action to create big passing plays. With Todd Gurley seemingly injured, the Rams running game was neither effective nor intimidating. So the Patriots ignored play-action fakes and attacked Goff, robbing him of the time he needed.

With his favorite plays surgically removed, Goff looked amateurish. A more adaptive coach would have begun calling more screens or draws. McVay stuck with what had worked all season, as Belichick anticipated he would.

The Patriots won Super Bowl XXXIX over the Eagles in February 2005. When they faced the Seahawks 10 years later, the Patriots hadn’t won a Super Bowl since.

The Seahawks mounted a dramatic last-minute drive. They faced first-and-goal with the clock running and expected the Patriots to call a timeout. Belichick recognized this, ignored conventional thinking, and didn’t, causing the Seahawks sideline to panic and call a pass play.

Belichick had instructed Patriots cornerback Malcolm Butler to anticipate the play and the route. Butler jumped in front of the receiver, intercepted the pass and won a Super Bowl for Belichick.

Two years later, Belichick benched Butler for the Super Bowl at U.S. Bank Stadium, then let Butler leave in free agency. Then he won another Super Bowl without him.

Put “ruthlessness” in a ring with “culture,” and culture will not make it out alive.
 

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Pace should’ve hired him as DC
 

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