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And he lost 2 1sts for Cutler. But DespBro said it was worth it.
And he lost 2 1sts for Cutler. But DespBro said it was worth it.
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It was a win-win...the complaint against Angelo was "he can't draft well in the 1st round!"...then when he traded 2 1sts for Cutler, those same people said "What are they doing trading away 1st round picks?!". As we all know, the problem wasn't that Angelo parted with 2 1st round picks in a trade, the problem was the return for those picks was Jay Cutler.
Its interesting how nowadays teams are loath to give away a 1st round pick in a trade...much less two 1st round picks. I wonder if Cutler was the last NFL player ever traded for two 1st round picks...I remember Joey Galloway was traded to Dallas (!) for two 1st round picks, but I think that was prior to Cutler.
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Cooper was gone. Top rated players were White and Beasley. Ereck Flowers and Gurley were next. Flowers has been a disappointment. Gurley was coming off a late ACL and had served a 4 game suspension. White had no baggage when drafted. Very difficult to know how White would have turned out without the ding so meh.
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The collective bargaining agreement changed rookie contracts (around 2011?). Remember Sam Bradford got like $50mil guaranteed before playing a snap. High draft picks are much more valuable now because they're so cost controlled.
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Mack, though we got some back.
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Who knew that, in retrospect, "limited route tree" would be the LEAST of Kevin White's problems when compared to everything else, including car thievery?
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Luckily his track record of getting high quality starters in the middle rounds shoots holes in this narrative so far. Let's hope the that doesn't change.
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More than a few....
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I also like to keep in mind that we traded two top picks for Cutler in '09 & '10 - kinda like we did for Mack - and the impact doesn't hit you for a few years later. I think Emery came around in '12, we fell apart in '13 and '14.
I expect the loss of draft picks will really hurt in '22 & '23 because most rookies need a year or so to truly impact the roster.
I expect the loss of draft picks will really hurt in '22 & '23 because most rookies need a year or so to truly impact the roster.
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HA HA HA! What "narrative"? Pace has yet to draft from a position outside the top 10.
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What does that have to do with Pace's record of getting quality starters in the middle rounds?
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HUH? So Pace HAS drafted from a position outside the top 10 and what I said is merely a "narrative"? Pace hitting on some mid-round picks changed history?
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LOL. Really?
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Yeah...that's how the NFL cycle is designed. Bad teams become good after drafting high in every round for 4 straight years...good teams become bad after drafting low in every round for 4 straight years. Welcome to the NFL!
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WTF are you even talking about?
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It's like you literally know nothing about Angelo's draft picks.
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Maybe come back with a lil less emotion Rory and re-read my post.
Drafting in the top 10 of the first round means nothing when it comes to finding talent in rounds 2-7, especially when the team trades both up and down and back into specific rounds to find talent.
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What on earth is going on here? What are you confused about? Do you honestly not know how the NFL draft works?
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Enlighten me!
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What "narrative" were you referencing in my posting? Simple question. Not really related to teams trading "both up and down and back"...great synopsis, BTW.
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