Who still thinks CHI should have traded Deng & Noah & a pick for Carmelo Anthony?

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Melo could drop 40 on the Heat routinely playing with a guy like Rose.

This is an absolute joke. There is no WAY Anthony could routinely drop 40 on the Heat with James guarding him. Miami was a great defensive team in their own right. Especially considering that Anthony routinely puts up low-percentage shots... the Heat defense would make life ROUGH for 'Melo. He would get his but he is not Mike.

And about your other point. Carmelo doesn't create for others. Yes, he can create for himself, and that would certainly help the Bulls offense. But you can't compare this to championship teams that have had guys who could do both. I'm talking MJ-SP, Rip-Billups, Ginobili-Parker. And even now with Wade-LeBron. These guys can get theirs AND feed off of each other (potentially in regard to Miami). Anthony and Rose would not be like that simply because Anthony is not a willing or very capable play-maker.

And guys who can create their own offense are pretty common in the league without having to go spend megabucks on a guy like Carmelo. The C position is the main position where you need a quality starter. And the Bulls have that.

[FirstTimer]

Noah is one of the best defensive players and rebounders in the league.

Balthering on about nothing.

Crunch time.

ECF.

On bench.

Quit trying to defend it.

And now the Heat will probably be forced to cut one of those players if the new CBA allows for it.

LOL at that.

Source that.

He is arguably the most natural scorer in the game

Ok.

but the problem is that he forces up terrible contested jumps-shots too often.

He's a career 46% shooter...32% from 3.

Seems like a hell of a lot of those shots are falling.



Denver isn't paying Melo to pass. Who should he dish to? Kenyon Martin, Birdman, or Nene?

LOL.

Melo is getting paid to be a high volume scorer. He does his job.

Oh, please.

What? You said Melo gets his shit pushed in. I showed that Melo has more than held his own against those guys.

Melo wanting to go to New York is besides the point.

Trading for Anthony would have meant that the Bulls would have been stuck with both of them.

LOL at being "stuck" with Carmelo fucking Anthony.

Yeah God forbid the Bulls are stuck with a borderline top 5 player for at least half a decade.

The Bulls weren't at full strength and they nearly knotted the series at 2 games, and had a 12-pt lead with just over 3:00 to go. If the Heat were any weaker or if the Bulls were any stronger in terms of the health of Noah and Boozer then that could have easily ended up a 3-2 Bulls lead going into Game 6 in Miami.

Except it didn't because our best player got ass raped by their best player.

If if if if if if if if...............

I certainly wasn't opposed to getting Carmelo Anthony

More utter bullshit.

. That Anthony trade would have killed their chances to win that series no matter what.

So. Fucking. What.

We lost the series anyways. So no thaving Melo or having Melo made no difference this season.

It amazes me you are still defending this awful viewpoint.

It is very arguable whether or not losing Deng and Noah could have eventually been worth it to gain Anthony

No it's not.

losing Noah, who is going to be a top 10 center in the league

Which means virtually nothing because Center is a fucking terrible position in the NBA now.

He could end up being better than every other center besides Dwight Howard if he developed a low-post game.

Keep drinking that Kool Aid.

Regular season wins sure does mean a lot, right?

Oh sorry. Wasn't aware it was possible for me to compare Carmelo Anthony to Wade and James in the playoffs since they play in another conference.

For the record. When you say Melo had his shi tpushed in against those guys what games were you using as an evaluation point? Playoffs?

Fucking hypocrit.

Just admit you spoke without having a clue(as usual) and ar enow trying to back out of it.

The rest of what you said has no point because I never said Anthony was better than any of them. I was simply refuting your idiotic assertion that Anthony had his shit pushed in by them..whenhe clearly hasn't

It was never only the matter of the offense. You could have Melo in the high-post on one side and have Boozer in the low-post on the other side (with Asik stinking it up in the middle). The problem is that that offense is not looking all that much, if any better than it would have been with Noah-Boozer-Deng.

Melo, Boozer, Asik/Taj/perhaps another grindy center>>Noah, Boozer, Deng on offense.


LOL at you back tracking on this.

ZOMG! Multiple posts on an offense?!?!?

[RamiTheBullsFan]

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[RamiTheBullsFan]

Source that.

NBA -- Most likely amnesty candidates - ESPN

[Rory Sparrow]

Carmelo Anthony is not this superstar player. He has gotten owned by LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade and the actual stars of the league since basically his arrival in Denver.

I'm confused. So when you say Melo has gotten owned by the actual stars of the league, does that include Luol Deng and Joakim Noah?

Word of advice...when Skip Bayliss would write a completely nonsensical column just to incite anger/response, the next day he would write a new column and act as if what he wrote yesterday never existed. I suggest that you do the same.

[RamiTheBullsFan]

I'm confused. So when you say Melo has gotten owned by the actual stars of the league, does that include Luol Deng and Joakim Noah?

Word of advice...when Skip Bayliss would write a completely nonsensical column just to incite anger/response, the next day he would write a new column and act as if what he wrote yesterday never existed. I suggest that you do the same.

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[FirstTimer]

NBA -- Most likely amnesty candidates - ESPN

You actually think the players would agree to that stipulation?

Hell the Union just decertified.

Oh noes the Heat would have to find another weird looking guy to shoot 3's!

Whatever will they do?!

[RamiTheBullsFan]

You actually think the players would agree to that stipulation?

Hell the Union just decertified.

Oh noes the Heat would have to find another weird looking guy to shoot 3's!

Whatever will they do?!

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[Rory Sparrow]

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These are awesome.

When you click on it, you have no idea how long it is. The one that was in response to my posting was literally 6 minutes in length. Even Jim Rome doesn't talk THAT long.

[RamiTheBullsFan]

These are awesome.

When you click on it, you have no idea how long it is. The one that was in response to my posting was literally 6 minutes in length. Even Jim Rome doesn't talk THAT long.

It started as being frustrated that my net would crap out and I'd lose every line of rebuttal I would make, but I think I actually prefer it like this.

[FirstTimer]

If you are going to leave voicemails quit stammering over yourself like a moron.

You make Lawerence Holmes look competant.

Plus as usual 99% of what you said is just rehashing the same shit I've already put down. Thankfully this was not left on my phone and cost me valuable minutes.

[RamiTheBullsFan]

If you are going to leave voicemails quit stammering over yourself like a moron.

You make Lawerence Holmes look competant.

It's not like I'm reading from a cue card but it's obvious you will stop short of nothing to make some sort of put down -_-

[FirstTimer]

It's not like I'm reading from a cue card but it's obvious you will stop short of nothing to make some sort of put down -_-

And it's obvious you will stop short of nothing to have your shit headed arguments invade another form of media.

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Plus as usual 99% of what you said is just rehashing the same shit I've already put down. Thankfully this was not left on my phone and cost me valuable minutes.

Haha. right. You don't actually respond to anything on-point anyway. Instead, you read into what people say and respond to it in the context of whatever you want it to be to being insulting to stroke your own ego. Which I am sure does wonders for your self-esteem.

[RamiTheBullsFan]

And it's obvious you will stop short of nothing to have your shit headed arguments invade another form of media.

And which "shit-headed" argument do you speak of?

[FirstTimer]

Haha. right. You don't actually respond to anything on-point anyway.

LOL at this.

You: Carmelo is dominated by the games best

Me: *SHows stats proving otherwise*

You: Those guys are better than Carmelo, it's not even a debate

Me: Uh ok? I never said Carmelo was better than them. I was responding to your shitheaded assertions.


and I'm the one that can't stay on point?!

And which "shit-headed" argument do you speak of?

Are you unable to read this thread?

[FirstTimer]

I'm convinced now the lockout is still going on because NBA players have read Rami discuss the sport and want to try to prevent him from discussing it futher.

[Rory Sparrow]

It started as being frustrated that my net would crap out and I'd lose every line of rebuttal I would make, but I think I actually prefer it like this.

I don't. The novelty has worn off.

[RamiTheBullsFan]

LOL at this.

You: Carmelo is dominated by the games best

Me: *SHows stats proving otherwise*

You: Those guys are better than Carmelo, it's not even a debate

Me: Uh ok? I never said Carmelo was better than them. I was responding to your shitheaded assertions.

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[FirstTimer]

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:yawn:

Explanation fail.

The voicemail sucked. Some was "static-ed" out.

Plus, if that's what you meant than you would have brought it up right away as soon as I showed stats. Rather you are again trying to back track out of your horrible asserstion as it's taking you multiple posts to get to this point.

You really suck at this.

Quit trying.

Quit discussing basketball. You hurt the game each time you do.

[RamiTheBullsFan]

So now you are explaining to me what I actually meant when I am explaining it as clear as day?

[RamiTheBullsFan]

And the only reason I am responding this way is because I lost my posts because my net disconnected. You have absolutely no idea what I was going to post and only have what I am saying to you right now to judge from.

[FirstTimer]

So now you are explaining to me what I actually meant when I am explaining it as clear as day?

Yes. Because it's clear all you are doing now is changing your argument because your original version o fit got blown out of the water. If what you just voice mailed was correct then you would have pointed that out in your original rebuttle, but instead your original response revolved around me using regular season games to evaluate it.

Weak effort kid.

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Yes. Because it's clear all you are doing now is changing your argument because your original version o fit got blown out of the water. If what you just voice mailed was correct then you would have pointed that out in your original rebuttle, but instead your original response revolved around me using regular season games to evaluate it.

Weak effort kid.

Again, you are assuming what I would and wouldn't have said/what I did/didn't mean when you literally have no way of knowing. I don't respond as well when it comes to typing because I am impatient and put out a rushed statement. This way, you know exactly what I am talking about- no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

[FirstTimer]

Again, you are assuming what I would and wouldn't have said/what I did/didn't mean when you literally have no way of knowing.

I'm not assuming anything.

I've read your filth.

Quit trying to defend your uneducated blabber.

I don't respond as well when it comes to typing because I am impatient and put out a rushed statement.

You also don't respond well speaking.

Sucks.