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Exactly why I didn't say I wanted them to go after a closer.
Exactly why I didn't say I wanted them to go after a closer.
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Kelly Johnson would be perfect for the Cubs. Great player under 10 mil
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I wouldn't be opposed to him. Our production out of 2B is terrible, but Johnson would be a stopgap guy.
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I understand what your saying Dab. this just popped in my head. Even contending teams have stopgap guys. Cant have 8 all stars everywhere. How many positions do you think Cubs need to make sure that guy is not stopgap?
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It depends on what Rizzo and Jackson are at the big league level. If Rizzo is truly a middle of the order bat then it makes it a little easier. Johnson's production out 2B is actually really good most years, but the issue is that he is 30 now. How many peak years does he have left? That is why I termed him a stopgap.
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Makes sense.. I dont see him as long term either. So im assuming Cubs are planning on Castro, Rizzo, and Jackson long term. How many other longterm guys do you think Cubs need before they start going for it?
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Again it depends on what those guys are at their best. If Castro is a .750 OPS guy then it probably takes more. If he is an .800-.850 guy less. Same with Jackson and Rizzo, with Rizzo having the much higher offensive ceiling. Kelly Johnson would be a smart pickup if this team was thinking they could be competitive quickly. I don't know if Theo/Jed feel that way or not.
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Stop gap???? I guess you have said that about every single player for the past 103 years
KJ has five years at least IMO.
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Read the rest of the thread and I explain why I call him a stopgap. It isn't due to his production, but rather the fact that you can really expect what 2-4 more years of that level of production.
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I read. 5 years
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You think he will have peak production from ages 31-36? It is that kind of thinking that got the Cubs in this mess to begin with.
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I think he'll be above average all five years. That's more than a stop gap
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Give me a team of above average players and I'll show you a team that needs their moms to cut their steak from the weight of the rings on their fingers
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It is possible, but it is also possible that he will begin to decline in 2 years. Counting on a guy at those seasons to continue to produce is a bad idea for a team that is likely to only begin to be competitive in that timeframe.
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Diff of op
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You're right, mine is colored by the fact that 90% of the time the Cubs sign a free agent they suck here.
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100% of the time the Cubs do anything it turns out wrong. So you have to ignore that
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2013 Payroll Commitments: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com
Cubs have about $35MM committed to next season. Might as well write out your free agent wish list as long as teams don't get extension happy between now and December.
Cubs have about $35MM committed to next season. Might as well write out your free agent wish list as long as teams don't get extension happy between now and December.
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I'm going to the Winter Mettings in December for the whole 4 days. It's being held in Nashville, TN.
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I think everyone by now knows my favorite target.
