Decastro vs Floyd who do you pick?

[FirstTimer]

10-16 spots in the first round is a huge difference

It's obviously not when you are talking about 3 points on a grading scale from 1-100.

Hell 16 slots may not be 16 true slots if some teams aren't looking for a WR.

You're not seeing the forest from the trees here..not that I'm surprised given this places propensity for idiocy when it comes to sports discussion.

elite and solid not some 7th round scrub.

Yeah Blackmon is so "elite" he grades out a full 3 points better than Floyd.

And maybe you are right that Blackmon is not elite

Gee, ya think?!

NFL Draft Countdown [3rd Ranked WR]
Walter Football [3rd ranked WR]
Gil Brandt [3rd ranked WR]

WHo are these people again?

LOL at using mock draft websites to prove anything.

You do realize Walter football is a joke right?

Elite prospects are not ranked behind other players at there position and I am still waiting for 1 person to say he is better than Blackmon.

The point isn't if he's betetr than Blackmon or not. The point is how close he is to Blackmon in scout grading..which he is pretty fucking close. On my actual grading scales Blackmon, Floyd, and Jefferies are all within a cunt hair of eachother. There's not a lot of seperation there.

So if Blackmon is not elite and he is better than Floyd what does that say about Floyd.

Do you have ANY clue what the term "relative" means?

We will see, but I am willing to bet that DeCastro goes to more Pro Bowls than Floyd and that Blackmon gets drafted at least 10 spots higher.

Ok?

Good for him.

But it is good to see that your mood has improved having a conversation with you is like having a conversation with a 12 year old.

LOL at this. Coming from someone who labeled a player who is 3 points off a grading scale from a supposed "elite" player in a draft as being merely solid.

You have the scouting eye of Helen Keller.

And all of this aside you do know that it is possible to make an arguement without being a condesending ass, right?

Tell you what.

You not be an idiot and make non-sensible points and I won't be an ass?

Deal?

Because the truth is that you do not know more than any of us about this stuff, .

Wrong.

[WindyCity]

It's obviously not when you are talking about 3 points on a grading scale from 1-100.

Hell 16 slots may not be 16 true slots if some teams aren't looking for a WR.

You're not seeing the forest from the trees here..not that I'm surprised given this places propensity for idiocy when it comes to sports discussion.


Yeah Blackmon is so "elite" he grades out a full 3 points better than Floyd.






Gee, ya think?!





WHo are these people again?

LOL at using mock draft websites to prove anything.

You do realize Walter football is a joke right?




The point isn't if he's betetr than Blackmon or not. The point is how close he is to Blackmon in scout grading..which he is pretty fucking close. On my actual grading scales Blackmon, Floyd, and Jefferies are all within a cunt hair of eachother. There's not a lot of seperation there.



Do you have ANY clue what the term "relative" means?


Ok?

Good for him.





LOL at this. Coming from someone who labeled a player who is 3 points off a grading scale from a supposed "elite" player in a draft as being merely solid.

You have the scouting eye of Helen Keller.


Tell you what.

You not be an idiot and make non-sensible points and I won't be an ass?

Deal?




Wrong.

I am done with this arguement we will see how this all plays out.

And you are not the only person who can make personal attacks.

You are a grumpy old man and you should get back to the business of dying.

[FirstTimer]

I am done with this arguement

Kid, you were done as soon I chose to respond.

You are a grumpy old man .

I'm 27 years old.

Quit being such a young ignorant cunt.

[onebud34]

How the hell did Randy Moss fall so far for being an "elite" WR prosepct?

I really don't consider Blackmon elite WR talent.

At this point (until the combine), it's like scouting UFA prospects in October

[USCChiFan]

Blackmon is gonna fall when he runs a slow 40 at the combine. That being said, I highly, highly doubt he falls out of the top 15.

As for DeCastro vs. Floyd, I'd take DeCastro. He's a very solid prospect who is a huge upgrade over Spencer at RG or Williams at LG. He's the Mike Iupati of this draft IMHO

[onebud34]

I'll be looking for our Carl Nicks this draft

[USCChiFan]

I'll be looking for our Carl Nicks this draft

If the Bears could sign him, I'd be ecstatic. But he's gonna want an enormous amount of money that he will get from someone.

[Chi66]

Two favorite guards in this first round that aren't DeCastro are Kevin Zeitler out of Wisconsin and Brandon Washington from Miami. Washington was a tackle in college and was projected as a guard on the next level, one of Pro Bowl caliber.

[thedude33]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ovtvGMnnAY&feature=related]Michael Floyd bobbles touchdown Champs Sports Bowl - YouTube[/ame]

I'm not crazy about Floyd. I doubt Blackmon will be there. Maybe Wright.

[thedude33]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wCv5eY144s]WR Michael Floyd NFL Draft Analysis - 2010 Season - YouTube[/ame]

[thedude33]

If you want a big guy, how about Jeffery?

He played well against Alabama's corners.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bpHPzu_wEM]Alshon Jeffery vs. Alabama (2010) - YouTube[/ame]

[thedude33]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ud5w_JnDWc&feature=related]WR Alshon Jeffery NFL Draft Analysis - 2010 Season - YouTube[/ame]

[FirstTimer]

Michael Floyd bobbles touchdown Champs Sports Bowl - YouTube

I'm not crazy about Floyd. I doubt Blackmon will be there. Maybe Wright.

because he "bobbled" an underthrown ball that he ended up catching for a TD that should have been a pick.

WHUT?1

[onebud34]

Watching Floyd's 2010 highlights. I'm reminded how fucking horrible that QB is.

Ill pass on Jeffery, even he makes Earl Bennett look like a speedster

[thedude33]

YOu know what, I'm not sure about Jeffrey either. Just go with the damn BPA.

[thedude33]

because he "bobbled" an underthrown ball that he ended up catching for a TD that should have been a pick.

WHUT?1

Because he bobbles passes, doesn't have top speed, has durability issues to go with his character issus, and overall doesn't look like a game changer at the NFL level.

[thedude33]

They really need their first pick to be a game changer. Maybe they need to trade up.

[thedude33]

How about this guy?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qTJkl-4s2k]Rueben Randle Highlights 2011 [HD] - YouTube[/ame]

[FirstTimer]

Because he bobbles passes,

You're a fucking idiot.

Seriously. One highlight of Floyd makign a circus catch on a shitty throw by Rees means he has a habit of "bobbling" passes?

Are you high?

doesn't have top speed

He'll run in the 4.4's

has durability issues

Hasn't missed a game in two seasons.

to go with his character issus

Oh noes! A DUI!

It's arguable if Lance Briggs/Urlacher don't have bigger character issues.

[Rush]

Don't agree = fucking idiot

[FirstTimer]

Floyd "bobbling passes" as an issue based on one highlight=fucking idiot.

[Chi66]

How about this guy?

Rueben Randle Highlights 2011 [HD] - YouTube

Eh heard some blah things about him like ability to take hits on the next level. I think "soft" was the word to describe him. I like Mohamed Sanu.. but Floyd is my top pick for 19. Then Jeffery, then Wright/Sanu (depending if we get a FA WR and who it is). If they're all gone then DeCastro or Mike Adams if they're there. If not then top DE/LB/S prospect around who isn't a reach.

[thedude33]

Right, hey if they draft Floyd and he turns out to be great, I'll be very happy, believe me. I have nothing against Floyd, I just think he isn't a top 20 pick. We'll find out his 40 time at the combine but he doesn't look that fast. I saw he's projected to run in the high 4.5s to even a 4.6. And I saw him with some drops in other videos. He might not have missed a game but that doesn't mean he doesn't have lingering problems with the shoulder. I'm not a doctor but I hear shoulder issues can be prohibitive to playing football.

As for me being a fucking idiot, well if I'm a fucking idiot don't you think you're just a little overzealous when it comes to Floyd? Some people here, including you, think he is the clear cut pick. I disagree.

[bleacherbum54]

Watching Floyd's 2010 highlights. I'm reminded how fucking horrible that QB is.

Ill pass on Jeffery, even he makes Earl Bennett look like a speedster

speed isnt near the most important thing in a WR. I would take a guy who can catch but is slow like Jerry Rice over a freak athlete like Darius Heyward Bey any day. Speed is really not very important a lot of the greats weren't very fast but they had great hands and ran great routes.

[thedude33]

Eh heard some blah things about him like ability to take hits on the next level. I think "soft" was the word to describe him. I like Mohamed Sanu.. but Floyd is my top pick for 19. Then Jeffery, then Wright/Sanu (depending if we get a FA WR and who it is). If they're all gone then DeCastro or Mike Adams if they're there. If not then top DE/LB/S prospect around who isn't a reach.

Soft is not the word we want to hear.

The draft does depend on FA, for sure.