Official Jorge Soler Watch Thread

**vick27m** · 03-09-2012, 01:50 AM

Originally Posted by daddies3angels

I agree Tribune jacked up the payroll to sell the team. There no disagreement there BUT it did work. Cubs made playoffs 2 years in row. They stopped making playoffs once Ricketts took team over and kept lowering payroll. Team has gone down hill the last 3 yrs which Ricketts took over. I keep hearing how bad shape team was in. He has 3 years and really didnt do anything till now. So part of that still his fault. Telling me if Cubs would have kept around 150 mil payroll in last 3 yrs they wouldnt have bene competitve? We dont know cause instead adding MLB talent when players contracts were done they just let the money come off th books.

Show me the difference between 08 09 and 10 rosters. Please. Cuz I highly doubt we started to suck just cuz Ricketts showed up and owned the team. And I'm still waiting for your GM offseason mode post. I've asked multiple times what you would do considering your the major homer saying this is your opinion. I told you to back up what your saying by giving me the playoff contending team you said throwing money at would work, and yet I'm still waiting for it

**Jntg4** · 03-09-2012, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by vick27m

Show me the difference between 08 09 and 10 rosters. Please. Cuz I highly doubt we started to suck just cuz Ricketts showed up and owned the team. And I'm still waiting for your GM offseason mode post. I've asked multiple times what you would do considering your the major homer saying this is your opinion. I told you to back up what your saying by giving me the playoff contending team you said throwing money at would work, and yet I'm still waiting for it

He wanted us to:
LF: Ryan Braun (trade Koyie Hill and prospects)
CF: Jacoby Ellsbury (trade Theo Epstein)
RF: Matt Kemp (trade Darwin Barney)
3B: Aramis Ramirez ($100 Million for 2 years to convince him to stay)
SS: Jose Reyes (trade that POS Castro)
2B: Troy Tulowitzki (trade Soto)
1B: Albert Pujols ($500 Million for 2 years) and Prince Fielder on bench ($400 Million for 2 years)
C: Yadier Molina (trade Clevenger)
SP: Roy Halladay (buy his contract), Tim Lincecum (buy his contract), C.C. Sabathia (buy his contract), Cliff Lee (buy his contract), Mark Buerhle ($300 Million for 2 years)

We're a BIG MARKET team, so we should SPEND UNTIL RICKETTS DEFAULTS ON HIS DEBT!!!!

**Jntg4** · 03-09-2012, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by daddies3angels

This just my opinion. I agree that small and medium market have to build team like that. I get that 100%. Just being a Cub fan in the 3rd largetst market and should be the top payroll in NL, i think team should be competitive every single year. I think its tough to ask Fans who have been waiting 103 years to be more patient while rebuilding when there 60% chance of it failing. Alot of older Cub fans dont have 3 + years to watch this team rebuild. I understand that 99% of us here are young. What about our fathers, grandparents that have been following Cubs for 30+ years.

Cool story bro. Spending our asses off because some people are old and won't see us win if we do it the right way is asinine. You don't base how you run your business on some old people needing to be able to see it, so you build another expensive trainwreck and hope it works. That's really just an incredulously stupid argument.

**waldo7239117** · 03-09-2012, 09:16 AM

I'm lost ... is this thread a Jorge Soler thread?

**Rice Cube** · 03-09-2012, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by waldo7239117

I'm lost ... is this thread a Jorge Soler thread?

Is he Dominican yet?

**waldo7239117** · 03-09-2012, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Rice Cube

Is he Dominican yet?

What do you mean?

**Rice Cube** · 03-09-2012, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by waldo7239117

What do you mean?

Just wondering if he has new citizenship and has been declared a free agent.

**waldo7239117** · 03-09-2012, 10:40 AM

Nope. He still have not receive residency yet. There was reports he was close. Now they're saying he's not close. I say about a month to 2 months.

**Jntg4** · 03-09-2012, 09:19 PM

Ricketts should give Soler $70 Million dollar 1-year major league deal so d3a can shut up about payroll.

**daddies3angels** · 03-09-2012, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by Wrigley FireHawks

Ricketts should give Soler $70 Million dollar 1-year major league deal so d3a can shut up about payroll.

I never 1 time said to spend money just because. Soler dont help the team now. He a future investment. Im saying spend money on proven MLB talent that makes you competitive WHILE building up the farm. Its going to take 3-5 yrs to build up the farm. Does anyone here understand that? With new cap on AM DRAFT and IFA, its going to take even longer to build the farm. So what i am saying is while they are building the farm why not spend on MLB talent on 1-5 yr deals to help MLB team be compeitive.

**vick27m** · 03-09-2012, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by daddies3angels

I never 1 time said to spend money just because. Soler dont help the team now. He a future investment. Im saying spend money on proven MLB talent that makes you competitive WHILE building up the farm. Its going to take 3-5 yrs to build up the farm. Does anyone here understand that? With new cap on AM DRAFT and IFA, its going to take even longer to build the farm. So what i am saying is while they are building the farm why not spend on MLB talent on 1-5 yr deals to help MLB team be compeitive.

Yeah Yeah Yeah we heard it before shut up already

**daddies3angels** · 03-10-2012, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by vick27m

Yeah Yeah Yeah we heard it before shut up already

**Rice Cube** · 03-10-2012, 05:14 PM

Phil Rogers seems to think it'll happen. Nothing official, but it's out there.

**daddies3angels** · 03-10-2012, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by Rice Cube

Phil Rogers seems to think it'll happen. Nothing official, but it's out there.

Jackson LF, Szcurzur CF, Soler RF in 4 yrs could be something

**Jntg4** · 03-10-2012, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by daddies3angels

Jackson LF, Szczur CF, Soler RF in 4 yrs could be something

ftfy

**Rice Cube** · 03-11-2012, 05:51 PM

NL Central Links: Concepcion, Cardinals, Soler: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

Jed Hoyer ---> no comment

**Rice Cube** · 03-12-2012, 12:53 PM

Today's MLBTR update:

Boston will pursue 19-year-old Cuban outfielder Jorge Soler, reports Speier. Soler is still waiting to be declared a free agent by MLB, but Speier says most in the industry (including the Red Sox) expect him to sign with the Cubs.

**CubbyBear2290** · 03-12-2012, 02:25 PM

I wonder well he'll finally be declared a Free Agent, seems like we've been waiting forever on him.

**vick27m** · 03-12-2012, 08:21 PM

Twitter says we are the overwhelming favorite to get him and he will be our top spec right out of the gate.

**Rice Cube** · 03-12-2012, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by vick27m

Twitter says we are the overwhelming favorite to get him and he will be our top spec right out of the gate.

Whose Twitter?

I wouldn't be surprised either way. I just hope they don't have to spend TOO much

**vick27m** · 03-12-2012, 08:30 PM

bleachernation and Kevin Goldstein

**Rice Cube** · 03-12-2012, 08:39 PM

I'm hoping it's less than the $27MM rumored. Seems a bit much for a prospect. But since they have the money to burn...

**Jntg4** · 03-12-2012, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Rice Cube

I'm hoping it's less than the $27MM rumored. Seems a bit much for a prospect. But since they have the money to burn...

If they spend less than 27,000,000 on him then #rickettscheap!!!

**dabynsky** · 03-12-2012, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by vick27m

Twitter says we are the overwhelming favorite to get him and he will be our top spec right out of the gate.

That is a pretty solid core of position players with Castro, Jackson, Rizzo, and Soler all under 24 years of age. Hopefully this gets done, but I refuse to get excited about this until it is official after the last time we went through this.