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    'New personality' of offense: Speed it up - Chicago Bears Blog - ESPN Chicago


    Jeffery will play the “Z” receiver spot in the slot. New acquisition Brandon Marshall and veteran Devin Hester will play on the outside, with the latter playing a much more significant role in 2012 than in years past on offense because of the club’s plans to creatively deploy him in a variety of places.

    Either the reporter got this wrong, or I am a monkeys uncle...Why in the eff would we have Jeffery in the slot exclusively. and why is there no mention of Earl Bennet.

    Our starting receiver core needs to have Marshall and Jeffery (or Jefferies depending on what dumb-fuck you ask) on the edges, with Bennett in the slot and Hester in on special packages. Once we got Knox back, we can figure that out. Devin Thomas and Eric Weems can sit their asses on the bench and kick ass at special teams. That is how it should go, and if that isn't how the depth chart plays out....

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    Reporter is a dumbass.

    Flanker (Z or FL): A receiver lining up behind the line of scrimmage. Frequently the team's featured receiver, the flanker uses the initial buffer between himself and a defender to avoid jamming, legal contact within five yards of the line of scrimmage. The flanker is generally on the same side of the formation as a tight end. As with the split end, this receiver is the farthest player from the center on his side of the field. The flanker is probably lined up just like a split end except that he is just behind the line of scrimmage, being in the backfield and not on the line.

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    I won't pretend to know what each position means, but I do know that Bennett should be the slot receiver and is probably a better receiver than Hester. Jeffery is going to be the #2 guy, not Hester.
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    I hate it when stupid people talk X's and O's.

    XYZ....what's in the fucking middle and which letters are to the outside?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Fresh3 View Post
    Our starting receiver core needs to have Marshall and Jeffery (or Jefferies depending on what dumb-fuck you ask) on the edges, with Bennett in the slot and Hester in on special packages. Once we got Knox back, we can figure that out. Devin Thomas and Eric Weems can sit their asses on the bench and kick ass at special teams.
    I would be absolutely shocked if it was anything but this (unless an injury of course). The front office seems to think Knox won't play all season, because whenever they talk about the WR core, they never mention Knox at all. They treat it like he's not there. However, Marshall made it sound like Knox could come back towards the end of the season, so we'll see.
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    I warned folks, with Marshall's comments, Hester could be starting ahead of Jeffery or for that matter Bennett. Slot may be a good spot for Jeffery, because a slot guy usually doesn't get a #1 or #2 CB.

    But, we are all reading too much into this, I see the Bears using a pretty significant rotation with the wide outs.
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    As much as I like Bennett's ability over Hester, starting Hester is the right move. GOTTA have some speed somewhere. However, I'm cool w/ Bennett being on the field 30-40% of the time, too. He can spell all 3 of the WRs at different points.
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    Once again... The Devin Hester at WR experiment should have ended in 2008-2009.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zack54attack View Post
    Once again... The Devin Hester at WR experiment should have never been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZAN View Post
    I hate it when stupid people talk X's and O's.

    XYZ....what's in the fucking middle and which letters are to the outside?

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    this is gonna be the same shit as Keith Bogans was to the Bulls last year. he starts but gets less minutes compared to Brewer. Brewer = Jeffery.

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    I hope your wrong, if Jeffery ends up a Brewer, then this was a bad draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCChiFan View Post
    I hope you're wrong, if Jeffery ends up a Brewer, then this was a bad draft.
    you get the comparison. i didnt compare their skill levels, yknow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nwfisch View Post
    You're so smart that you coach for the Bears

    Not at all. It's not a hard concept. Combine that with the fact that these people get paid to write stuff like that and do t know what they're talking about. Irritating...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zack54attack View Post
    Once again... The Devin Hester at WR experiment should have ended in 2008-2009.
    You guys suck.

    It hasn't worked out like most would think for a couple reasons...

    1.) No real WR to draw attention away from him. Knox and Earl Bennett aren't necessarily game changers. When you put Marshall/Jeffery out there, teams won't be able to key in on him as much.

    2.) He is just learning the position. Not many people are going to go from College CB to SOLID #1 WR in any NFL teams' offense.

    3.) Cutler is a great QB but, he hasn't had a stable offensive line by any means.

    I will always rate Hester as an average WR and he is just that. Angelo tried to make him Jerry Rice, obviously that wouldn't happen. He's a serviceable NFL WR though.

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    Rush...I just think hester would be better utilized as a gimmick RB. He's a returner, so I think that would be a natural position on offense for him. The Bears have given him enough chances to be a starting wr in this league. if you okay him there his snaps should be limited there
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    Exactly, Rush. Hester is a fine receiver, but only in the shadows of true players like Marshall or Jeffery. I mean I think it was Hester himself who talked about how teams would be able to focus on any one offensive player and the team's offense 'stunk' because of it. That's not going to happen so easily this year with multiple schemes being implemented to turn what Dennis Green called as 'one-dimensional' into 'let's-see-game-plan-against-us-now-bitches'.

    I've also said before that what's going to make da Bear's more potent than the Packers or Lions is this: they have a running game. It might not be a running league, of course, but it only makes it more difficult for opponents to deal with now that the right pieces to an offense has been set.

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    I wouldnt say Earl is a game-changer, but I would give him a helluva lot of credit for what he DOES do. The dude gets open and has great hands. He may not have speed to take it the distance but, there is NO ONE (well, until Marshall plays a snap for the Bears) I'd rather look for on 3rd down, than Bennett. Hopefully, Marshall changes that.....but until then....

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    As a guy running the route tree, Hester is not the ideal but as a play maker he's a rare gem. They don't want to take him out the offense because they know he provides a factor that scare the piss outta defenses.

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    Y is the slot Z and X are out side WRs last time I checked

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleacherbum54 View Post
    Y is the slot Z and X are out side WRs last time I checked
    Spread offense I ran in high school had the Y as the backside WR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush View Post
    I will always rate Hester as an average WR and he is just that. Angelo tried to make him Jerry Rice, obviously that wouldn't happen. He's a serviceable NFL WR though.
    Hester is a bad WR. At this point in his career, he isn't going to "learn" anything new. Mike Furrey went from NFL DB to 100-catch WR in one year with Mike Martz as his OC. In the same pass-happy offense, Hester started all of 2010 and half of 2011, and still struggled to put up 60+ catches. He had 1 TD last year. That is terrible. I would guess that if the Bears released Hester, the next team that picked him up would not use him as a WR.


    As for the XYZ, the Z receiver is (usually) the flanker. So he's out wide in formations where Y is the TE, but he is the slot WR in 3-WR sets. Kind of stupid to reference it in an article, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rory Sparrow View Post
    Hester is a bad WR. At this point in his career, he isn't going to "learn" anything new. Mike Furrey went from NFL DB to 100-catch WR in one year with Mike Martz as his OC. In the same pass-happy offense, Hester started all of 2010 and half of 2011, and still struggled to put up 60+ catches. He had 1 TD last year. That is terrible. I would guess that if the Bears released Hester, the next team that picked him up would not use him as a WR.


    As for the XYZ, the Z receiver is (usually) the flanker. So he's out wide in formations where Y is the TE, but he is the slot WR in 3-WR sets. Kind of stupid to reference it in an article, though.
    Furrey was actually a DB convert...he played WR sans the 2005 season. Martz did make him a legitimate threat at WR in Detroit...along with Shaun McDonald.

    And yes...Hester should be played minimally at WR.
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    Hester should be used like Percy Harvin is used.....all over the field. He should be a gimmick weapon. I remember seeing the Bears put Hester in the backfield for a play. I actually think I saw them do it twice in the 6 years he's been here.

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