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    Derrick Rose has surgery to repair torn ACL - Chicago Sun-Times

    Bulls guard Derrick Rose underwent surgery to repair the torn anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee Saturday morning at Rush University Medical Center.

    Brian Cole, the Bulls’ team physician, performed the surgery using an autograft from Rose’s patellar tendon, a commonly used procedure on young athletes. Rose also received a platelet-rich plasma, which helps stimulate and speed healing.

    A source said there were no complications or surprises during the surgery, which lasted about an hour.

    “His knee looked great,” the source said. “It’s what you’d expect from a 23-year-old physical specimen.”

    Rose underwent a “pre-hab” routine that involved allowing the fluid and swelling to recede before he underwent surgery. Rose also did rehabilitation exercises before surgery that doctors hoped would allow him to recover from surgery sooner.

    The usual recovery time for someone undergoing ACL surgery is 6-9 months. The Sun-Times has learned that Rose was told to expect an eight-month rehabilitation, which would allow him to return to the Bulls in late December or early January. However, Rose has been told that he could be back playing basketball within four to five months, although not at the elite level required in the NBA.

    The ACL tear was the fifth injury Rose suffered during a season that saw the MVP point guard miss 27 regular-season games because of toe, back, groin and ankle/foot injuries.

    “Disappointed for him,” Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau said when asked what emotions Rose’s injuries spurred in him. “You guys who have been around him, you know the type of guy he is. He’s a fierce competitor. We expect him to approach his rehab the same way he approaches everything else and fully recover and be able to contribute next year.”

    Rose averaged 21.8 points and 7.9 assists in 39 games.

    Rose has speculated that the league’s lockout-condensed schedule might have contributed to the injuries, which were uncharacteristic considering he missed seven games in his first three seasons combined.

    “I don’t think it’s related at all,” NBA commissioner *David Stern said April 30 when asked about Rose’s injury being a result of a lockout-shortened season. “Zero. When anything happens, [second-guessing is] going to happen. But I was just reading something from a doctor who said that he just doesn’t believe it.”

    Stern seemed to soften his stance a few days later after several other players were injured during the playoffs.

    “I don’t know,” Stern told Jim Rome on CBS Sports Network on Tuesday. “As I was reading about it this morning, I think there’s some part of it that may be related to that. Some part of it is luck. Some part of it is lack of preparedness by our players before the season began. It’s a combination of things.”

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    Good choice. He may be out a little bit longer but he will return in the best condition he can return. An other reason for the Bulls GM to pull the trigger and land another superstar here. This team died mentally the moment Rose went down. Major changes must been done now. Rose may never be the same again. He is a guy whose game was based on speed and explosiveness. He will be a superstar level player but he may not be the kind of superstar who can take a team on his shoulders.
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    I posted about this on the front page yesterday, but yes, it's time for his rehab to begin.

    Kirk Hinrich seems like more and more likely to return as every day goes by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thechosenone View Post
    Rose may never be the same again. He is a guy whose game was based on speed and explosiveness. He will be a superstar level player but he may not be the kind of superstar who can take a team on his shoulders.
    I have read that we should expect his knee to return to about 80% strength. So that will mean way less speed and explosiveness. He's going to have to become a big time facilitator which also means other people on the team are going to have to be able to score...


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    why did it have to be rose?

    why did god do this to us?

    why do we gotta suffer through a year with kirk hinrich?

    why did we sign boozer?

    why didnt we keep ben gordon?

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    Hopefully this injury helps him refine other levels of his game, kind of like what happened with Chris Paul. Oh, well... hopefully Rose won't become a giant sissy and flop anytime somebody gets past him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JosMin View Post
    Hopefully this injury helps him refine other levels of his game, kind of like what happened with Chris Paul. Oh, well... hopefully Rose won't become a giant sissy and flop anytime somebody gets past him.
    Pretty much. CP3's shooting got tons better after his injury. Hopefully we can see the same with Rose. If he gets a reliable 3pt shot, he won't have to rely on the drive nearly as much. Now I hope he wouldn't settle for 3s all the time, but I guess lacking explosiveness he might have to. And of course his passing game should improve too.
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    Simple solution would be to keep Rose out of the weight room. He won't lose any speed if he stops lifting. This can't be denied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huffalicious View Post
    I have read that we should expect his knee to return to about 80% strength. So that will mean way less speed and explosiveness. He's going to have to become a big time facilitator which also means other people on the team are going to have to be able to score...
    Uhh wut.

    Where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huffalicious View Post
    I have read that we should expect his knee to return to about 80% strength. So that will mean way less speed and explosiveness. He's going to have to become a big time facilitator which also means other people on the team are going to have to be able to score...
    Rose knee would be back 100%. The only thing that could hold him back is him not trusting his knee during his first games back. But that may not happen with him.

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    100%, 80%, whatever%, people....Please, enough of the armchair orthopedic surgeon/physical therapist posts. No one has any idea about how Rose will be physically and mentally when he comes back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCguy View Post
    The only thing that could hold him back is him not trusting his knee during his first games back.
    i really think that will be a problem....hes gonna be scared for awhile .....but he'll get over it

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    Quote Originally Posted by FirstTimer View Post
    Uhh wut.

    Where?
    In one of ESPN's articles on the day he tore the ACL. Now that I say that, I sound like an idiot. Predicting the recovery of his knee after it just happened. Silly ESPN. And silly me for actually using that number. I'm not a physician, so I can't say for sure what strength his knee will be at when he's back in action, but I can only hope 100%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huffalicious View Post
    In one of ESPN's articles on the day he tore the ACL.
    Post that.

    Never heard that about an ACL injury...ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FirstTimer View Post
    Post that.

    Never heard that about an ACL injury...ever.
    Me neither. And from talking with friends who've had ACL surgery, they've told me the knee that they had surgery on actually ended up being stronger than their healthy knee when all was said and done. The mental aspect seems to be the hardest thing to overcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diddy1122 View Post
    Me neither. And from talking with friends who've had ACL surgery, they've told me the knee that they had surgery on actually ended up being stronger than their healthy knee when all was said and done. The mental aspect seems to be the hardest thing to overcome.
    Pretty much this.

    No idea where he's getting that from.

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    Chicago Bulls guard Derrick Rose will be out at least 8-12 months after undergoing surgery to repair his left ACL, said Dr. Brian Cole, who performed the surgery on Saturday.
    Ouch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diddy1122 View Post
    Me neither. And from talking with friends who've had ACL surgery, they've told me the knee that they had surgery on actually ended up being stronger than their healthy knee when all was said and done. The mental aspect seems to be the hardest thing to overcome.
    Maybe I misread the article then and he said 100% himself? I dunno. I was at a party watching the Bulls game and after he got hurt checked the internet on my phone about every 37 seconds for an update.


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    Chicago Bulls guard Derrick Rose will be out approximately eight to 12 months after undergoing surgery to repair his left ACL, said Dr. Brian Cole, who performed the surgery on Saturday.



    The 23-year-old Rose tore the ACL on April 28 during the first game of the Bulls' Eastern Conference quarterfinals series against the Philadelphia 76ers. Without Rose, the Bulls became only the fifth No. 1 seed to lose to an eighth seed as the Sixers won in six games.

    "Derrick is doing great," Cole said Tuesday at a press conference at Rush University Medical Center. "The surgery went extremely well. Really no surprises. It was pretty routine.

    "We're at this point very optimistic. ... We think of recovery as the long process that's in stages. But the short answer is the time frame we believe an athlete of this caliber generally requires is about eight to 12 months. Sometimes shorter, sometimes longer."

    That means Rose is likely to miss at least the first two months of next season, or he could miss the entire season.

    Bulls general manager Gar Forman said Rose was ready for rehabilitation.

    "In the time frame I've spent with him, and I was with him over the weekend, his spirits seemed really good," Forman said. "In his mind, he's determined to attack this rehab and get back to the level that he was at.

    "There was a period when he was down. But I think his spirts are good under the circumstances, and I think he's ready to aggressively attack this."
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    From the Tribune
    Three days after he performed surgery to repair the most important anterior cruciate ligament in the Chicago Bulls' franchise, Bulls team physician Brian Cole gave an optimistic assessment of Derrick Rose's future.

    Cole spoke at Rush University Medical Center alongside Bulls general manager Gar Forman and head athletic trainer Fred Tedeschi.

    "Derrick is doing great," Cole said. "The surgery went really well. No surprises."

    Cole estimated that Rose would need eight to 12 months for a full recovery, and saw no reason why his performance should be diminished.

    "It’s impossible to predict tomorrow," Cole said. "Statistically, he should be that player and then some. That doesn’t mean it’s guaranteed."

    Asked if he knew what caused the injury, Cole said, "This could be anything from a completely random event to maybe conditioning. We'll never know with certainty."

    He noted that Rose did not tear his medial collateral ligament, which made his preparation for surgery much smoother.

    Rose suffered the injury during Game 1 of the Bulls-76ers playoff series on April 28. The injury marked the sixth for Rose following a regular season in which he missed 27 games due to toe, back, ankle and foot issues.

    Tedeschi said Rose has been a great patient.

    "Those who know him know he’s terrific to deal with," Tedeschi said. "He has done everything I’ve asked and more."

    Forman said Rose's spirits were improving.

    "In the time I’ve spent with him, and I was with him over the weekend, his spirits seem really good," Forman said. "In his mind, he’s determined to attack this rehab and get his game back to where it was. There was a period there where he was down. But I think he’s doing better."

    Reggie Rose, Derrick's older brother, told the Tribune over the weekend that Derrick would return on his terms.

    "He's not sitting out the entire (2012-2013) year,” Reggie said. “We're just going to bring him back slowly. I think the biggest thing to do is not put a time limit on it, just when he feels comfortable. When he comes back, he's got to learn how to trust his body. I tore my ACL in college also. So it's him learning how to trust his body."

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    "Cole estimated that Rose would need eight to 12 months for a full recovery, and saw no reason why his performance should be diminished."

    "It’s impossible to predict tomorrow," Cole said. "Statistically, he should be that player and then some. That doesn’t mean it’s guaranteed."

    but but....but WebMD told me_____.
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    One year out? this sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thechosenone View Post
    One year out? this sucks.
    No, just a full year to FULLY recover. CP3, David West, Tony Allen, Jamal Crawford to just name a few, all came back before the full year & played though not at full 100%. David West is just starting to show he's fully back in the swing of things. His surgery was about 12 months ago I believe.

    So Rose will be back before this, but everyone needs to be prepared for a down year next season. We'll still make the playoffs, but no one should be expecting Rose to be his normal, explosiveness acrobatic self until potentially next off-season.

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    I predict Rose will be back for game 1 of the regular season next season. That's the way these things work. You put the worst case scenario out there and then the fans marvel at how fast these great athletes recover.


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    Next season is basically lost now. Rose is going to be out for up-to 12 months. But he damn sure will not be 100% before the 2014 season.
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