Pretty safe to say....

clonetrooper264 · May 18, 2012

While we're pointing out obvious things we'd do in a heartbeat.

Rip/Brewer/Korver for Kobe.
Boozer for Kevin Love/Blake Griffin/Pau Gasol/Amare/Zach Randolph
Luol Deng for Kevin Durant
CJ Watson/JL3 for Steve Nash/Andre Miller/Chauncey Billups
Noah for Dwight Howard/Andrew Bynum

And so many others. :smug:

thechosenone · May 18, 2012

He also looks like a 10 years old boy against Noah. Maybe this is why some guys want this trade. They just can't stand to admit that a Bulls player with his great energy and passion can underplay a "better" player and deliver something important like rebounding in every fucking game. They want to see more Boozers in this team (players who can score 20-30 points against shitty opponents but score 2 and 4 points against decent opponents). I bet those guys celebrated Boozer's trade.

Hibbert is a 13pts-9reb-2ast guy. Noah is a 10pts-11reb-3ast guy but suddenly Hibbert is dominant against the BEAST Joel Anthony and THE INCREDIBLE Glen Davis and he became Dwight Howard in 2 weeks.

Crystallas · May 18, 2012

FirstTimer said:
Yeah because it's not like Hibbert didn't outperform Noah this entire regular season.

Oh wait.

Noah 2 regular season wins
10/13/3/1/1
9/17/3/1/0
14/14/2/1/0

Hibbert 1 regular season win
20/8/0/4/1
2/7/4/3/1
4/3/0/1/1

FirstTimer · May 18, 2012

Crystallas said:
Noah 2 regular season wins
10/13/3/1/1
9/17/3/1/0
14/14/2/1/0

Hibbert 1 regular season win
20/8/0/4/1
2/7/4/3/1
4/3/0/1/1

At last check the NBA regular season was 66 games long this year. Not 3. Are you and fisch too Special person to understand that?

thechosenone · May 18, 2012

nwfisch said:
Roy Hibbert vs. Joakim Noah | Basketball-Reference.com

Waaat? Noah was better against Hibbert? Y no say! Unbelievable. Hibbert would be a major improvement for the Bulls. He have our superstar out, our starting SG is 35 years old, our starting PF needs 5 seconds to think if there is a very impressive way to turn the ball over before attempting a shot,yo. BUT trading a 10 points-11 rebounds guy with a 13 points-9 rebounds guy MUST BE first priority. This is what we need right now. 2 more points and 2 less rebounds.

FirstTimer · May 18, 2012

thechosenone said:
He also looks like a 10 years old boy against Noah. Maybe this is why some guys want this trade. They just can't stand to admit that a Bulls player with his great energy and passion can underplay a "better" player and deliver something important like rebounding in every fucking game.

Yeah because Noah's 1 RPG advantage is a clear indication that Hibbert took a lot of nights off.

:rofl:

thechosenone said:
Hibbert is a 13pts-9reb-2ast guy. Noah is a 10pts-11reb-3ast

You forgot blocks.

Hibbert wins.

:rofl:

You suck.

nwfisch · May 18, 2012

FirstTimer said:
At last check the NBA regular season was 66 games long this year. Not 3. Are you and fish too Special person to understand that?

At least I don't spell people's names wrong :dealwithit:

It'll be interesting to see what Hibbert gets. If Hibbert gets more than Noah, is that an albatross as well or fair market value?

FirstTimer · May 18, 2012

nwfisch said:
At least I don't spell people's names wrong

It'll be interesting to see what Hibbert gets. If Hibbert gets more than Noah, is that an albatross as well or fair market value?

Different CBA and salary requirements. Not an apples to apples comparison really.

Plus the amnesty clause helps.

You can afford you dish out a turd contract. Sadly the Bulls have 3.

FirstTimer · May 18, 2012

Oh yeah. Hibbert is an All-Star.

Noah isn't.

Another win for 'Ol Roy!

clonetrooper264 · May 18, 2012

FirstTimer said:
At last check the NBA regular season was 66 games long this year. Not 3. Are you and fish too Special person to understand that?

Season averages

Hibbert: 65 games 29.8 mpg 12.8 points 8.8 boards 1.7 assists 2 blocks .5 steals 2 TOs 3 fouls
Noah: 64 games 30.4 mpg 10.2 points 9.8 boards 2.5 assists 1.4 blocks .6 steals 1.4 TOs 2.5 fouls

Yup...vastly outplayed.

FirstTimer · May 18, 2012

clonetrooper264 said:
Season averages

Hibbert: 65 games 29.8 mpg 12.8 points 8.8 boards 1.7 assists 2 blocks .5 steals 2 TOs 3 fouls
Noah: 64 games 30.4 mpg 10.2 points 9.8 boards 2.5 assists 1.4 blocks .6 steals 1.4 TOs 2.5 fouls

Yup...vastly outplayed.

I never said Hibbert "vastly outplayed" Noah.

Learn to read fuckwad.

clonetrooper264 · May 18, 2012

FirstTimer said:
I never said Hibbert "vastly outplayed" Noah.

Learn to read fuckwad.

I'm sorry I'll put it in freaking sarcasm green next time

nwfisch · May 18, 2012

FirstTimer said:
Different CBA and salary requirements. Not an apples to apples comparison really.

Plus the amnesty clause helps.

You can afford you dish out a turd contract. Sadly the Bulls have 3.

How would the amnesty clause help Hibbert?

I thought the amnesty clause could only be used on players signed at the new CBA?

The Pacers have an albatross in Granger, and it depends on Collison's and George's development to see if they'll get 3.

Sure I'll take Hibbert now making $2.0M per. When that goes up to what Noah's making or more, things obviously change.

FirstTimer · May 18, 2012

Per 36:

Roy: 15.5 PPG, 10.6 RPG, 2.0 APG 2.4 BPG

Noah: 12.1 PPG 11.6 RPG 3.0 APG 1.7 BPG

Roy is younger, taller, and an All-Star.

Hibbert wins!

FirstTimer · May 18, 2012

nwfisch said:
How would the amnesty clause help Hibbert?

I explained it. Think.

nwfisch said:
The Pacers have an albatross in Granger

Granger is actually good. So it's not an albatross.

thechosenone · May 18, 2012

Code:

Rk 	Player          Season 	        Age 	G 	GS 	MP 	FG 	FGA 	FG% 	3P 	3PA 	3P% 	FT 	FTA 	FT% 	ORB 	DRB 	TRB 	AST 	STL 	BLK 	TOV 	PF 	PTS
1 	Roy Hibbert 	2011-12 	25 	65 	65 	29.8 	5.1 	10.3 	.497 	0.0 	0.0 	.000 	2.6 	3.7 	.711 	3.3 	5.5 	8.8 	1.7 	0.5 	2.0 	2.0 	3.0 	12.8
2 	Joakim Noah 	2011-12 	26 	64 	64 	30.4 	3.9 	7.7 	.508 	0.0 	0.0 	.000 	2.4 	3.2 	.748 	3.8 	6.0 	9.8 	2.5 	0.6 	1.4 	1.4 	2.5 	10.2

nwfisch · May 18, 2012

FirstTimer said:
Different CBA and salary requirements. Not an apples to apples comparison really.

Plus the amnesty clause helps.

You can afford you dish out a turd contract. Sadly the Bulls have 3.

FirstTimer said:
I explained it. Think.

Granger is actually good. So it's not an albatross.

How does it help in Hibbert's case? Let me get this straight, the Pacers can sign Hibbert to a mega deal and then decide to amnesty him?

FirstTimer · May 18, 2012

nwfisch said:
How does it help in Hibbert's case? Let me get this straight, the Pacers can sign Hibbert to a mega deal and then decide to amnesty him?

No.

You're not thinking.

Try again.

nwfisch · May 18, 2012

FirstTimer said:
No.

You're not thinking.

Try again.

Tell me what your thinking is. I'm Special person, and can not compute :obama:

FirstTimer · May 18, 2012

nwfisch said:
Tell me what your thinking is. I'm Special person, and can not compute

Indiana can afford to hand out a poopdick contract to Roy because they have (by your logic) Grangers albatross deal they can get rid of. The Pacers can free up room to sign Hibbert if they really want to go nuts with it. The Bulls can't really amnesty Noah, Deng, or Boozer to overpay Noah again.

Not really a true comparison.

Pretty safe to say....

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