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Go for it Kenny!
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we would have to give them a lot. if people thought demp would require spects, this dude is gonna net the phils some descent specs. lets make a rotation for the fuck of it.
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I can't imagine we have what it takes to get him vs other teams.
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im surprised you actually want him.....i was thinking that maybe you wanted to bring back jim parque.
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No. It's the second half of the season not the first half
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Uh, the Phils asking price on Hamels is insane:
https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/219510834592886787
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fuck that.
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They're not going to get it. Cole Hamels is going to free agency and new team won't be able to take advantage of comp picks etc.
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no one will pay that unless they know he can be resigned
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I doubt anyone makes it, but I also don't buy that the Phils will just take whatever to make it happen if everyone low balls them because they don't get comp.
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I think the likely scenario is that a desperate team with money trades for Hamels in a sign-and-trade deal, wherein they would give up three prospects and then throws a contract extension at Hamels. I doubt the Phillies keep Hamels just to snag a comp pick.
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4 to 5 current prospects. Or 4 to 5 used to be?
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i agree
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I don't see any scenario that Hamels isn't testing free agency. I guess I see Philly being swayed by the fanbase to only give up Hamels for a kings ransom. If they don't get it they take their shot at keeping him when he hits the open market. Not sure how it works with offering the qualifying offer, if that precludes them from working on a long term extension or not.
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I think they have to offer at least the qualifying offer, so if they have an offer entered into the system and Hamels refuses they still get the comp pick.
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I can say one thing.
He aint coming here.
He aint coming here.
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Sox don't even have 4 or 5 good prospects that the Phillies might want.
But the Phillies can't really believe that they'll get that much. Nobody is going to give up that much for a 3 month rental guy.
But the Phillies can't really believe that they'll get that much. Nobody is going to give up that much for a 3 month rental guy.
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This early in the season it's all about posturing. I'm sure once the deadline rolls around someone's going to pay, but the Phillies have little to lose from shooting the moon right now.
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That was my understanding, and that is why I can envision the scenario playing out where they hold out for far more than the market will give. If no one caves, then they use their exclusive negotiating window to try their best to get a head start on resigning him. Offer the qualifying offer and take their shot at retaining him.
For once we are in agreement.
I agree that no one is going to give up that much, but Hamels is the best pitcher possibly available. He is going to command a haul for the Phillies to trade him. Again I am really anxious for some dominoes to start to fall so we can finally start seeing how the market is actually going to play out with all of the new factors.
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