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    Dwight you must understand that your profession is basketball! Stop chasing NY or LA. Your best basketball fit is Chicago! A serious organization. A big in defense and rebounding team with lack of scoring from their big guys. A perfect fit for you. With the best small guy in the league, the best defensive minded coach in the league and a very good supporting cast to help you win the championship.

    A defensive monster like you with Thibs as a coach in an all business team like the Bulls can reach new levels of defensive domination. DWill is good but you know that DRose is better. He is the best. You are the best. And you know what happens when the best big guy in the league meets the best small guy in the league? Championships. That happens. The only team that didn't manage to win a championship with this combination is Orlando. But you know it better than anyone. You 've learned your lesson and now you know well that some teams can't win championships. They are losers from the beginning. Don't risk your success in a team like the Nets.

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    Agreed. If he wants rings, he comes to Chicago. If he just wants the $$$, then go to Brooklyn and enjoy losing.

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    I'm not sure such an egotistical, cancerous personality like Howard could work with someone as strict and enforcing as Thibs. Thibs wants flexible and disciplined individuals working as a team. Would I like his talents on the team though? Yep. Do I want him fucking up the Bull's locker room and bringing his drama-queen showmanship to the game? Nope.

    It all depends on how well Thibs can control the ego and get him team-oriented. If he just wants the money and be in the spotlight, he might as well go to Miami.

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    Howard is a cancer. Why don't you send an open letter to AI, too, and see just how fucked up you can get the locker room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smallandpettypat View Post
    Howard is a cancer. Why don't you send an open letter to AI, too, and see just how fucked up you can get the locker room.
    Bullshit. If you pick players only by their character then your team would be 10 monks. When someone is super talented and he is exactly what you need- the missing piece- then you don't think something else.

    Name me one player at Howard's level who was in a non talented team and didn't ask for a trade! None! Only AI. But players with AI character are rare nowadays. Who wouldn't want to be in a championship caliber team? AI had the balls and the character to do this and that's why he is one of my favorite players of all time. Howard isn't. But he is the best defender and center in the game and he is a player who can make the ECF on his own. Pairing him with another player who can make the ECF on his own and your championship odds are very high.

    Howard could easily reject to sign the papers and he would be a free agent now. With Magic getting a big ZERO in return. He didn't. He signed the papers and now the Magic will get something GOOD in return. Will it be some picks? Will it be some all star level players? It will be something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thechosenone View Post
    Bullshit. If you pick players only by their character then your team would be 10 monks. When someone is super talented and he is exactly what you need- the missing piece- then you don't think something else.

    Name me one player at Howard's level who was in a non talented team and didn't ask for a trade! None! Only AI. But players with AI character are rare nowadays. Who wouldn't want to be in a championship caliber team? AI had the balls and the character to do this and that's why he is one of my favorite players of all time. Howard isn't. But he is the best defender and center in the game and he is a player who can make the ECF on his own. Pairing him with another player who can make the ECF on his own and your championship odds are very high.

    Howard could easily reject to sign the papers and he would be a free agent now. With Magic getting a big ZERO in return. He didn't. He signed the papers and now the Magic will get something GOOD in return. Will it be some picks? Will it be some all star level players? It will be something.
    "Bullshit. If you pick players only by their character then your team would be 10 monks."

    Or the Spurs. Or the Pacers in the 80's and 90's.

    "But he is the best defender and center in the game and he is a player who can make the ECF on his own"

    Really? Howard has been in the Association since '04-'05 and has made the ECF exactly ONE time. Once. Ever. He is without a doubt the best center, but he's not the best defender. LBJ can defend ALL FIVE positions. Howard can defend two, maybe three. Being able to lock down 4 of the 5 positions and hold his own against the fifth makes LBJ better. Nobody defends the paint like Howard, but there is a hell of a lot more floor space to defend than just the paint.

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    Give up the ghost, he doesn't want to come here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thechosenone View Post
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    Dwight you must understand that your profession is basketball! Stop chasing NY or LA. Your best basketball fit is Chicago! A serious organization. A big in defense and rebounding team with lack of scoring from their big guys. A perfect fit for you. With the best small guy in the league, the best defensive minded coach in the league and a very good supporting cast to help you win the championship.

    A defensive monster like you with Thibs as a coach in an all business team like the Bulls can reach new levels of defensive domination. DWill is good but you know that DRose is better. He is the best. You are the best. And you know what happens when the best big guy in the league meets the best small guy in the league? Championships. That happens. The only team that didn't manage to win a championship with this combination is Orlando. But you know it better than anyone. You 've learned your lesson and now you know well that some teams can't win championships. They are losers from the beginning. Don't risk your success in a team like the Nets.
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    OKC is the better team...but I am tired of the Lebron naysayers so I wouldn't mind if Lebron got a ring. I think OKC is the better team and I have them winning in 6.

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    LOL at calling Howard a cancer. Please bring some of that cancer to Chicago.
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    It is not happening. Why keep harping on it?

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    Because thinking about Dwight Howard in a Bulls uniform is more appealing then thinking about Willie Green in one.

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    Word around the league is that Dwight Howard's value has fallen because of back injury and the way he handled his impending free agency. One exec I spoke to said that a package of DeAndre Jordan, Eric Bledsoe, and Caron Butler might be enough. Relationship between Howard and the Magic is turning ugly in a hurry.

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    Make a better offer than this and take Howard! Ronnie Brewer,JLIII and Omer Asik. Get it done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thechosenone View Post
    Make a better offer than this and take Howard! Ronnie Brewer,JLIII and Omer Asik. Get it done!
    Please tell me this is sarcasm.


    Please....

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    Quote Originally Posted by FirstTimer View Post
    Please tell me this is sarcasm.


    Please....
    Getting Howard with DeAndre Jordan, Eric Bledsoe, and Caron Butler would be the best sarcasm of all times!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thechosenone View Post
    Getting Howard with DeAndre Jordan, Eric Bledsoe, and Caron Butler would be the best sarcasm of all times!!!
    Do you honestly thing a package of: John Lucas III, Ronnie Brewer, and Omer Asik is a better package than Deandre Jordan, Caron Butler, and Eric Bledsoe?

    If so, why/how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FirstTimer View Post
    Do you honestly thing a package of: John Lucas III, Ronnie Brewer, and Omer Asik is a better package than Deandre Jordan, Caron Butler, and Eric Bledsoe?

    If so, why/how?
    JLIII owned LeBron last year, Asik is the Turkish hammer and Ronnie Brewer is the best character in the league. We are getting the worst character and giving them the best! What else do they want?

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    What teams do you think will try and acquire Dwight Howard?
    Nets
    Well, obviously, we know about the Brooklyn Nets since that is the team Howard has requested a trade to. The only assets they possess are Brook Lopez, who is a restricted free agent, MarShon Brooks and a few expiring contracts including Jordan Farmar, Anthony Morrow and Johan Petro.

    Future draft picks would be meaningless and inconsequential considering if Brooklyn attained Howard, it would be a perennial playoff team with no chance of being in the draft lottery.

    And if they do acquire Joe Johnson and re-sign Deron Williams, the Nets would have absolutely no salary cap space for the next few years.

    Lakers
    The Lakers have long coveted Howard, but Dwight’s resistance to sign long term in Hollywood has shrunk L.A.’s bargaining power. Andrew Bynum, who most consider to be the NBA’s second best center, and Pau Gasol, in spite of still having $40 million left on his contract, are two attractive pieces the Lakers have to offer.

    It’s ambiguous, however, if L.A. would be willing to deal both Bynum and Gasol especially if Howard doesn’t commit long term to playing with Kobe Bryant and the Lakers.

    Rockets and Warriors

    The Houston Rockets and Golden State Warriors are two clubs that seem more than willing to acquire Howard with no assurance he would stay past next season.

    Neither the Rockets nor Warriors have a proven and distinguished “star” to offer the Magic in any deal.

    Houston has the three draft picks, Jeremy Lamb, Royce White and Terrence Jones, a budding point guard in Kyle Lowry, Kevin Martin’s expiring contract and a respectable, but perhaps overpaid, Luis Scola to proffer.

    Golden State, on the other hand, has its draft lottery selection, Harrison Barnes, along with fan favorite Stephen Curry, Andrew Bogut, who the Warriors acquired at the trade deadline last season from the Bucks, and another highly regarded, but pricey, power forward in David Lee.

    There are three sleeper teams that nobody has really discussed lately that may have interest in trading for Howard: New York, Oklahoma City and Chicago.

    If the Knicks, for one, were to sign Steve Nash to a deal, they would have no need for Jeremy Lin. Would NY be willing to offer Lin, who is a restricted free agent and could be available via sign-and-trade, along with Amar’e Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler? And if so, would Orlando be interested in some sort of blockbuster package that included Dwight and others on its roster to fulfill the financial requirements?

    OKC, meanwhile, seems flexible in trading James Harden if the right deal came along. It could also present Serge Ibaka and Kendrick Perkins if the Thunder were open to the idea of acquiring Howard with no assurance he would stay past next season. A trio of Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook and Howard would be difficult to contend with even if it's just for one season.

    And finally, Chicago seems desperate to find a suitable second superstar to partner up with Derrick Rose. Joakim Noah, Luol Deng and Taj Gibson are the Bulls’ best assets, but are all getting rich contracts. (Rich contracts MY ASS! We are the best option for the Magic. Noah has a 10M per year contract while Asik got 8 per year! Taj has 1M per year contract and Deng has 12M per year contract.)

    Listen, Howard is one of the best players in the league and is already one of the premier centers of all time. It’s the exact reason why, ultimately, Orlando may continue to wait until it is comfortable making a decision on whether to trade him or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thechosenone View Post
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    What teams do you think will try and acquire Dwight Howard?
    Nets
    Well, obviously, we know about the Brooklyn Nets since that is the team Howard has requested a trade to. The only assets they possess are Brook Lopez, who is a restricted free agent, MarShon Brooks and a few expiring contracts including Jordan Farmar, Anthony Morrow and Johan Petro.

    Future draft picks would be meaningless and inconsequential considering if Brooklyn attained Howard, it would be a perennial playoff team with no chance of being in the draft lottery.

    And if they do acquire Joe Johnson and re-sign Deron Williams, the Nets would have absolutely no salary cap space for the next few years.

    Lakers
    The Lakers have long coveted Howard, but Dwight’s resistance to sign long term in Hollywood has shrunk L.A.’s bargaining power. Andrew Bynum, who most consider to be the NBA’s second best center, and Pau Gasol, in spite of still having $40 million left on his contract, are two attractive pieces the Lakers have to offer.

    It’s ambiguous, however, if L.A. would be willing to deal both Bynum and Gasol especially if Howard doesn’t commit long term to playing with Kobe Bryant and the Lakers.

    Rockets and Warriors

    The Houston Rockets and Golden State Warriors are two clubs that seem more than willing to acquire Howard with no assurance he would stay past next season.

    Neither the Rockets nor Warriors have a proven and distinguished “star” to offer the Magic in any deal.

    Houston has the three draft picks, Jeremy Lamb, Royce White and Terrence Jones, a budding point guard in Kyle Lowry, Kevin Martin’s expiring contract and a respectable, but perhaps overpaid, Luis Scola to proffer.

    Golden State, on the other hand, has its draft lottery selection, Harrison Barnes, along with fan favorite Stephen Curry, Andrew Bogut, who the Warriors acquired at the trade deadline last season from the Bucks, and another highly regarded, but pricey, power forward in David Lee.

    There are three sleeper teams that nobody has really discussed lately that may have interest in trading for Howard: New York, Oklahoma City and Chicago.

    If the Knicks, for one, were to sign Steve Nash to a deal, they would have no need for Jeremy Lin. Would NY be willing to offer Lin, who is a restricted free agent and could be available via sign-and-trade, along with Amar’e Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler? And if so, would Orlando be interested in some sort of blockbuster package that included Dwight and others on its roster to fulfill the financial requirements?

    OKC, meanwhile, seems flexible in trading James Harden if the right deal came along. It could also present Serge Ibaka and Kendrick Perkins if the Thunder were open to the idea of acquiring Howard with no assurance he would stay past next season. A trio of Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook and Howard would be difficult to contend with even if it's just for one season.

    And finally, Chicago seems desperate to find a suitable second superstar to partner up with Derrick Rose. Joakim Noah, Luol Deng and Taj Gibson are the Bulls’ best assets, but are all getting rich contracts. (Rich contracts MY ASS! We are the best option for the Magic. Noah has a 10M per year contract while Asik got 8 per year! Taj has 1M per year contract and Deng has 12M per year contract.)

    Listen, Howard is one of the best players in the league and is already one of the premier centers of all time. It’s the exact reason why, ultimately, Orlando may continue to wait until it is comfortable making a decision on whether to trade him or not.
    Noah's deal is 12 million per year(His extension just vested). Asik hasn't been signed by Chicago yet.

    Cite your sources for these articles BTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FirstTimer View Post
    Noah's deal is 12 million per year(His extension just vested). Asik hasn't been signed by Chicago yet.

    Cite your sources for these articles BTW.
    Asik will get 8 per year no matter where he plays. So 12 per year for Noah is nothing. You can't get a solid C with less money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thechosenone View Post
    Asik will get 8 per year no matter where he plays. So 12 per year for Noah is nothing. You can't get a solid C with less money.
    Actually he won't.

    Read the Asik thread. The structure of the contract depends where he signs.

    Deandre Jordan is a really solid center..and is paid less. Kendrick Perkins is making less than 9 million per year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FirstTimer View Post
    Actually he won't.

    Read the Asik thread. The structure of the contract depends where he signs.

    Deandre Jordan is a really solid center
    ..and is paid less. Kendrick Perkins is making less than 9 million per year.
    ehh..i guess...compared to some centers maybe

    but i will say asik's numbers are far behind some players of which he would have similar contracts to if the deal goes down
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    Quote Originally Posted by thechosenone View Post
    Asik will get 8 per year no matter where he plays. So 12 per year for Noah is nothing. You can't get a solid C with less money.
    So Asik isn't a solid center?


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    Quote Originally Posted by FirstTimer View Post
    So Asik isn't a solid center?

    Is he a basketball player?

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    He's a me guy, as posted prior...no thanks to Milton Bradley.

    Not quite that bad, but Howard has yet to prove he can gel with any team.

    On the flipside, perhaps coach T is the prescription for diva such as Howard.
    "There is nothing new under the sun".

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