For whatever it's worth, I think Allan Houston was a pretty darn good player when he was healthy.
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And im positive if you took a poll on who the Bulls fans would rather have as their owner, Dolan would win in a landslide over Reinsdorf.
I feel you, and its not like I'm judging you for being like 16 to 20 years younger than me.
Its just that I don't understand why you would speak on things you havnt seen, or experienced.
Also, I'm sure you have seen a lot of Lebron James, so maybe you have knowledge on him..
And another thing, I was born in 1976....I grew up watching the Bulls and was very much into it from a kid all the way to an adult.
I rarely missed Bulls games, and I recorded the dam games so if I missed anything I could watch it the next day or whenever I was free.
Guess what, I still have my recordings.
As I read arguments on 90s Bulls basketball or underrating Pippen on this forum, I get insulted because I have the evidence at my disclosure....And not just 1994 Bulls or Pippen.....try 1988 to 2000...
So basically what I'm telling you is that Hue is not the only old dog on this forum that's seen a lot of Bulls basketball.
Plus, most importantly, your idol(Hue) is not some kind of basketball historian professor or wizard that knows all and seen all.
He's just a man that's seen(or claims to have seen) a lot of basketball in the 80s and 90s...So fucking what man...
Does that mean everything is the way he saw it......the answer is NO!!!
Its just his opinions and how he looked at players in the league growing up.
I'm no different, just seen things from a different perspective and opinion than his.
Ill make it simple for you to understand.
Just pretend me and Hue are 2 guys checking out a fat girl at a club.
I look at her and say, "dam that bitch is ugly as fuck with dem cellulite jelly roll stomach".
Then Hue say, " come awn bruh, that bitch is thick and fine as Hell to me, and dem stretch marks sexy to me."
Think about it......Neither of us are wrong....I wasn't lying, I THOUGHT that bitch looked nasty and Hue liked her and too him, she was beutiful.....That's his opinion....fine....The problem is, Hues going to go around preaching to everyone that that fat nasty bitch being beutiful is FACT.....
It the same concept he has used in his posting on this thread, that's for dam sure........GET IT?
Don't be mislead and believe everything Hue says is fact, because one of these days he's going to tell you that if you jump off the Willis Tower, you'll be o.k because he will have a stack of pillows laying on the side walk for you and you'll be just fine....
You may think,"o.k, if Hue said it, it must be fact" even though its really just an opinion that he may truely believe.....and then might jump..
The real FACT is, there will be one hell of a pot hole in the sidewalk and feathers everywhere........
Just sayin, I know you look up to him like some kind of basketball mentor, but don't be mislead by only 1 mans opinions.....
AND the bottom line is, Hue seriously underrates Pippen and even goes against certain facts he may not like and convince you and others it ain't so, just to promote his favorite players of all time.........
IT IS FACT THAT HUE IS A DIE HARD BARKLEY FAN.
Most Barkley fans I know or have met over the years do not like Pippen, and its funny because Barkley never liked Pippen much either.
A die hard Barkley fan knows this, so I guess they just follow suit, and begin the Pippen bashing.
True story bro
P.S, I garentee Hue is reading this right now and is probably going to say somthing like "good grief, this is the most insane B.S I have ever read"...or "SP is unstable and insane and a rodeo clown".....and if not, after reading this last paragraph in this reply, he most likely will just not say anything at all just so he can pretend I'm on ignore because I'm quote on quote, just an idiot in his eyes....but then again, he's responded to me more than a few times, so I guess that means I'm not an idiot according to his own avatar sig.......He clearly states above his avatar, that he ignores idiots.....FACT...
The truth is, I'm just honest.........PIPPEN AIN'T EASY........
Pippen was one of the best defenders in the history of basketball if not the best. Offensively there are a lot of players who were/are better than Pippen. I don't believe that Pippen was something so special offensively. But when Jordan is in your team who gives a fuck if you are not the best offensive player? I would pick Pippen instead of everyone else easily. When you have a weapon of mass destruction in your team you go with the elite defender.
It's like having Kobe in your team and pick Bynum instead of Howard because he has more offensive moves than Howard. Only idiots would pick a better offensive player instead of the ultimate defensive player as the sidekick of Jordan or Kobe. Without Pippen, Jordan might not be who he is today. He would have been the best offensive player of all time. Pippen helped him become the GOAT.
Please.................................There's plenty of evidence of Barkley-Pippen beef.....Surf the web your dam self and find it, JERKOFF.....for example start googling Houston Rockets, Pippen-Barkley.....there's plenty there all by it self........But you shouldn't have to, because if you actually remember what was going on in 1999s basketball world, you would already know that.......And it began well before 1999................its not like its some kind of secret......did you live in a cave?
P.S, what's up with all the name calling in like every post?
You remind me of a bad rapper that has to throw in curse words just to make there rap rhyme because there simply a bad rapper.....Or a rapper that publicly tries to humiltiate others just to gain public interest for record sales.....
I would like to address Chosenones assesment of Pippens offense. While its true Pippen wasnt a great scorer (mainly because that wasnt his game) he was a very good scorer. In 94/95 he was top 15 in the NBA. During most of his priime he had to play alongside Jordan.
Compare his ppg avg with other players
21, 22, 23, 22, 26, 23, 22, 20
19, 21, 23, 22, 21, 23, 24, 22, 21, 19
18, 22, 19, 17, 18, 18, 19, 24, 20, 23, 22, 19
25, 23, 21, 21, 20, 20, 21, 21, 20, 18
17, 22, 19, 21, 22, 22, 26, 22, 18,
22, 22, 24, 23, 22, 23, 22, 26, 23, 20
18, 21, 19, 22, 21, 19, 20, 19
Now remember Pippen shared the Ball with Jordan. In the two year without Jordan he was avg 22. Thats right in line with the players I mentioned. Theres no reason he couldn't avg 23-25 ppg without Jordan. And mind you all those guys were first option players on their team.
Just a thought, has anyone ever considered that Lebron may have also learned a lot from Pippen?
After all, a lot of his offensive moves to the basket look almost identical to Pippens style.....especially the lay up where he pulls his arm all the way back and swings it around..........not sayong that Pippen personally trained him or anything, but that purhaps Lebron may have looked up to Pippen growing up.......Hue will never admit this, but there are so many similarities between Pippen and Lebrons game....starting with DEFENSE......considering that Hue is a huge fan of Lebrons, I would figure that Hue would also be a huge fan of Pippen instead of his biggest hater......it doesn't make sense....Pippen was like the prototype of Lebron, and Lebron is the new bigger stronger upgraded version created in a lab at Area51.......Yes, that's a compliment to Lebron.......Only thing is, Dr.Frankenstein forgot to recreate Pips basketball high IQ brain and put it in Lebrons Head.....As soon as he adds that upgrade, then and only then will it be possible for Lebron to become the greatest player ever......and it is possible.....People bash Pippen all the time for his comments about Lebron-Jordan, but in a way, Pip wasn't that far off...
Plus they play the same position.....I've always stated that Lebron is like Pippen of steroids......If Pip was the same size as Lebron, I personally have no doubt that Pippen would be better than him..EVEN OFFENSIVELY............
He was instrumental in making Pippen a great player, as much as anybody.
Malone would have carried the scoring load, and a broken down Bird wasn't going to be worth much on the offensive side of the floor. So even in Malone's team, Pippen would be 2nd/3rd option.
Again, not sure what's so bad about being the perfect complementary player.
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People bring up money as if dude was going to get a max contract. If someone else overpaid and he walked for nothing, the whiners would whine about that too.
Good news! you can play as pippen after all.