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    For whatever it's worth, I think Allan Houston was a pretty darn good player when he was healthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nwfisch View Post
    Saying he was the perfect role player is an insult?

    I think its an insult to Derrick Rose to call Tyrus Thomas a "staple"

    I think it insulting to Reinsdorf to saying Dolan is a better owner because he spent money on the likes of Alan Houston, Jerome James, and Eddy Curry.
    This is another one of those times when youre taking something out of context. The Bulls dint trade Tyrus Thomas because they felt he wasnt gonna amount to anything, they traded him because they didnt want to pay him. I saw Thomas as being another andra kirlenko. Excellent defender, long, great shot blocker, capaable of jumping out of the gym. Hes the one guy that I felt could matchup on lebron james.

    And im positive if you took a poll on who the Bulls fans would rather have as their owner, Dolan would win in a landslide over Reinsdorf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nwfisch View Post
    He probably would be a better fit on Malone's team than Jordan.
    He didnt just say Jordan. He said he would pick him over everyone on the dream team. That includes Bird and Magic

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    Quote Originally Posted by nwfisch View Post
    I've seen a few. Could probably count on my hand what I saw. I work and go to school so my time is limited to what I can see.
    Its cool my wigga.
    I feel you, and its not like I'm judging you for being like 16 to 20 years younger than me.
    Its just that I don't understand why you would speak on things you havnt seen, or experienced.
    Also, I'm sure you have seen a lot of Lebron James, so maybe you have knowledge on him..
    Cool, understood.

    And another thing, I was born in 1976....I grew up watching the Bulls and was very much into it from a kid all the way to an adult.
    I rarely missed Bulls games, and I recorded the dam games so if I missed anything I could watch it the next day or whenever I was free.
    Guess what, I still have my recordings.
    As I read arguments on 90s Bulls basketball or underrating Pippen on this forum, I get insulted because I have the evidence at my disclosure....And not just 1994 Bulls or Pippen.....try 1988 to 2000...
    So basically what I'm telling you is that Hue is not the only old dog on this forum that's seen a lot of Bulls basketball.
    Plus, most importantly, your idol(Hue) is not some kind of basketball historian professor or wizard that knows all and seen all.

    He's just a man that's seen(or claims to have seen) a lot of basketball in the 80s and 90s...So fucking what man...
    Does that mean everything is the way he saw it......the answer is NO!!!
    Its just his opinions and how he looked at players in the league growing up.
    I'm no different, just seen things from a different perspective and opinion than his.

    Ill make it simple for you to understand.
    Just pretend me and Hue are 2 guys checking out a fat girl at a club.
    I look at her and say, "dam that bitch is ugly as fuck with dem cellulite jelly roll stomach".
    Then Hue say, " come awn bruh, that bitch is thick and fine as Hell to me, and dem stretch marks sexy to me."

    Think about it......Neither of us are wrong....I wasn't lying, I THOUGHT that bitch looked nasty and Hue liked her and too him, she was beutiful.....That's his opinion....fine....The problem is, Hues going to go around preaching to everyone that that fat nasty bitch being beutiful is FACT.....

    It the same concept he has used in his posting on this thread, that's for dam sure........GET IT?

    Don't be mislead and believe everything Hue says is fact, because one of these days he's going to tell you that if you jump off the Willis Tower, you'll be o.k because he will have a stack of pillows laying on the side walk for you and you'll be just fine....
    You may think,"o.k, if Hue said it, it must be fact" even though its really just an opinion that he may truely believe.....and then might jump..
    The real FACT is, there will be one hell of a pot hole in the sidewalk and feathers everywhere........

    Just sayin, I know you look up to him like some kind of basketball mentor, but don't be mislead by only 1 mans opinions.....

    AND the bottom line is, Hue seriously underrates Pippen and even goes against certain facts he may not like and convince you and others it ain't so, just to promote his favorite players of all time.........

    IT IS FACT THAT HUE IS A DIE HARD BARKLEY FAN.
    Most Barkley fans I know or have met over the years do not like Pippen, and its funny because Barkley never liked Pippen much either.

    A die hard Barkley fan knows this, so I guess they just follow suit, and begin the Pippen bashing.

    True story bro

    P.S, I garentee Hue is reading this right now and is probably going to say somthing like "good grief, this is the most insane B.S I have ever read"...or "SP is unstable and insane and a rodeo clown".....and if not, after reading this last paragraph in this reply, he most likely will just not say anything at all just so he can pretend I'm on ignore because I'm quote on quote, just an idiot in his eyes....but then again, he's responded to me more than a few times, so I guess that means I'm not an idiot according to his own avatar sig.......He clearly states above his avatar, that he ignores idiots.....FACT...

    The truth is, I'm just honest.........PIPPEN AIN'T EASY........
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    OKC is the better team...but I am tired of the Lebron naysayers so I wouldn't mind if Lebron got a ring. I think OKC is the better team and I have them winning in 6.

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    Pippen was one of the best defenders in the history of basketball if not the best. Offensively there are a lot of players who were/are better than Pippen. I don't believe that Pippen was something so special offensively. But when Jordan is in your team who gives a fuck if you are not the best offensive player? I would pick Pippen instead of everyone else easily. When you have a weapon of mass destruction in your team you go with the elite defender.

    It's like having Kobe in your team and pick Bynum instead of Howard because he has more offensive moves than Howard. Only idiots would pick a better offensive player instead of the ultimate defensive player as the sidekick of Jordan or Kobe. Without Pippen, Jordan might not be who he is today. He would have been the best offensive player of all time. Pippen helped him become the GOAT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thechosenone View Post
    Pippen was one of the best defenders in the history of basketball if not the best. Offensively there are a lot of players who were/are better than Pippen. I don't believe that Pippen was something so special offensively. But when Jordan is in your team who gives a fuck if you are not the best offensive player? I would pick Pippen instead of everyone else easily. When you have a weapon of mass destruction in your team you go with the elite defender.

    It's like having Kobe in your team and pick Bynum instead of Howard because he has more offensive moves than Howard. Only idiots would pick a better offensive player instead of the ultimate defensive player as the sidekick of Jordan or Kobe. Without Pippen, Jordan might not be who he is today. He would have been the best offensive player of all time. Pippen helped him become the GOAT.


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    OKC is the better team...but I am tired of the Lebron naysayers so I wouldn't mind if Lebron got a ring. I think OKC is the better team and I have them winning in 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thechosenone View Post
    Pippen was one of the best defenders in the history of basketball if not the best. Offensively there are a lot of players who were/are better than Pippen. I don't believe that Pippen was something so special offensively. But when Jordan is in your team who gives a fuck if you are not the best offensive player? I would pick Pippen instead of everyone else easily. When you have a weapon of mass destruction in your team you go with the elite defender.

    It's like having Kobe in your team and pick Bynum instead of Howard because he has more offensive moves than Howard. Only idiots would pick a better offensive player instead of the ultimate defensive player as the sidekick of Jordan or Kobe. Without Pippen, Jordan might not be who he is today. He would have been the best offensive player of all time. Pippen helped him become the GOAT.
    Great post

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottiepippen1994 View Post


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    Where the Hell have you been?
    I am really busy during summer doing whatever doesn't include staying in front of a PC. Working,swimming,sunbathing,spearfishing,fishing,d rinking etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by thechosenone View Post
    Pippen was one of the best defenders in the history of basketball if not the best. Offensively there are a lot of players who were/are better than Pippen. I don't believe that Pippen was something so special offensively. But when Jordan is in your team who gives a fuck if you are not the best offensive player? I would pick Pippen instead of everyone else easily. When you have a weapon of mass destruction in your team you go with the elite defender.

    It's like having Kobe in your team and pick Bynum instead of Howard because he has more offensive moves than Howard. Only idiots would pick a better offensive player instead of the ultimate defensive player as the sidekick of Jordan or Kobe. Without Pippen, Jordan might not be who he is today. He would have been the best offensive player of all time. Pippen helped him become the GOAT.
    You pretty much called Pippen a sidekick. And the goofball posse commended you for it...unbelievable. I agree with most of what you said...except Jordan would have been the greatest if Pippen had never existed.

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    Please show evidence that Barkley didn't like Pippen! Tell everybody you were born in 1976...then why do you act as if you are 5? Barkley WANTED PIPPEN IN HOUSTON TO PLAY WITH HIM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thechosenone View Post
    I am really busy during summer doing whatever doesn't include staying in front of a PC. Working,swimming,sunbathing,spearfishing,fishing,d rinking etc

    Right now I am here.

    But you can do all that and post on C.C.S at the same time.....I do.....
    Just get a 4G smartphone.......I can't remember the last time I actually posted here from a PC....LoL
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    OKC is the better team...but I am tired of the Lebron naysayers so I wouldn't mind if Lebron got a ring. I think OKC is the better team and I have them winning in 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by houheffna View Post
    You pretty much called Pippen a sidekick. And the goofball posse commended you for it...unbelievable. I agree with most of what you said...except Jordan would have been the greatest if Pippen had never existed.
    He basically stated Pippen complimented Jordan. Your ideas of Pippen being a sidekick is a backhanded insult to Pippen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by houheffna View Post
    Please show evidence that Barkley didn't like Pippen! Tell everybody you were born in 1976...then why do you act as if you are 5? Barkley WANTED PIPPEN IN HOUSTON TO PLAY WITH HIM!
    You have alot of nerve demanding someone backup their assertion with facts. All weve gotton from you over these last few days iis unfounded claims with no evidence to back it up. Lies, backpedaling, double standards, and unfounded claims are all youre good for

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    Quote Originally Posted by houheffna View Post
    Please show evidence that Barkley didn't like Pippen! Tell everybody you were born in 1976...then why do you act as if you are 5? Barkley WANTED PIPPEN IN HOUSTON TO PLAY WITH HIM!
    Please just shut up man.......

    Please.................................There's plenty of evidence of Barkley-Pippen beef.....Surf the web your dam self and find it, JERKOFF.....for example start googling Houston Rockets, Pippen-Barkley.....there's plenty there all by it self........But you shouldn't have to, because if you actually remember what was going on in 1999s basketball world, you would already know that.......And it began well before 1999................its not like its some kind of secret......did you live in a cave?

    P.S, what's up with all the name calling in like every post?
    You remind me of a bad rapper that has to throw in curse words just to make there rap rhyme because there simply a bad rapper.....Or a rapper that publicly tries to humiltiate others just to gain public interest for record sales.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by houheffna View Post
    You pretty much called Pippen a sidekick. And the goofball posse commended you for it...unbelievable. I agree with most of what you said...except Jordan would have been the greatest if Pippen had never existed.
    Pippen helped jordan develop his defensive game a lot. He is the goat not only because he was the best offensive player but because he was one of the best defenders too. And of course he didn't win a championship without Pippen.

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    I would like to address Chosenones assesment of Pippens offense. While its true Pippen wasnt a great scorer (mainly because that wasnt his game) he was a very good scorer. In 94/95 he was top 15 in the NBA. During most of his priime he had to play alongside Jordan.

    Compare his ppg avg with other players

    Tim Duncan
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    Kevin Garnett
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    Magic Johnson
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    Reggie Miller
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    Glen Rice
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    Mithc Richmond
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    Pippen
    18, 21, 19, 22, 21, 19, 20, 19

    Now remember Pippen shared the Ball with Jordan. In the two year without Jordan he was avg 22. Thats right in line with the players I mentioned. Theres no reason he couldn't avg 23-25 ppg without Jordan. And mind you all those guys were first option players on their team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thechosenone View Post
    Pippen helped jordan develop his defensive game a lot. He is the goat not only because he was the best offensive player but because he was one of the best defenders too. And of course he didn't win a championship without Pippen.
    Pippen was Jordans brother in battle, partner, Jordans pupil and teacher, very well at every catagory in basketball(well except for freethrows), playmaker, allstar, champion, hall of famer, etc etc etc etc,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and the list goes on and on...............

    Just a thought, has anyone ever considered that Lebron may have also learned a lot from Pippen?
    After all, a lot of his offensive moves to the basket look almost identical to Pippens style.....especially the lay up where he pulls his arm all the way back and swings it around..........not sayong that Pippen personally trained him or anything, but that purhaps Lebron may have looked up to Pippen growing up.......Hue will never admit this, but there are so many similarities between Pippen and Lebrons game....starting with DEFENSE......considering that Hue is a huge fan of Lebrons, I would figure that Hue would also be a huge fan of Pippen instead of his biggest hater......it doesn't make sense....Pippen was like the prototype of Lebron, and Lebron is the new bigger stronger upgraded version created in a lab at Area51.......Yes, that's a compliment to Lebron.......Only thing is, Dr.Frankenstein forgot to recreate Pips basketball high IQ brain and put it in Lebrons Head.....As soon as he adds that upgrade, then and only then will it be possible for Lebron to become the greatest player ever......and it is possible.....People bash Pippen all the time for his comments about Lebron-Jordan, but in a way, Pip wasn't that far off...
    Plus they play the same position.....I've always stated that Lebron is like Pippen of steroids......If Pip was the same size as Lebron, I personally have no doubt that Pippen would be better than him..EVEN OFFENSIVELY............
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottiepippen1994 View Post
    But you can do all that and post on C.C.S at the same time.....I do.....
    Just get a 4G smartphone.......I can't remember the last time I actually posted here from a PC....LoL
    I take C.C.S everywhere, even work....

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    It's always good to spend some days offline.

    Also nothing good happened for the Bulls in this offseason. I plan to follow the Lakers this season. The Bulls games will be very boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thechosenone View Post
    Pippen helped jordan develop his defensive game a lot. He is the goat not only because he was the best offensive player but because he was one of the best defenders too. And of course he didn't win a championship without Pippen.
    Its the other way around. Jordan was a better on ball defender than Pippen throughout his career. Pippen's job was to make Jordan's job easier. Jordan would win DPOY in Pippen's rookie season. Pippen sought out Jordan and Jordan helped him with his game.

    He was instrumental in making Pippen a great player, as much as anybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 97Bulls View Post
    This is another one of those times when youre taking something out of context. The Bulls dint trade Tyrus Thomas because they felt he wasnt gonna amount to anything, they traded him because they didnt want to pay him. I saw Thomas as being another andra kirlenko. Excellent defender, long, great shot blocker, capaable of jumping out of the gym. Hes the one guy that I felt could matchup on lebron james.

    And im positive if you took a poll on who the Bulls fans would rather have as their owner, Dolan would win in a landslide over Reinsdorf.
    MAYBE, JUST MAYBE the Bulls traded Thomas because they didn't think he'd amount to anything, and is of a lesser caliber than players like Amare, Bosh, and Boozer. Being cheap on Thomas isn't mutually exclusive of Thomas being bad at basketball.
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    He didnt just say Jordan. He said he would pick him over everyone on the dream team. That includes Bird and Magic
    Considering Malone was given Stockton, its no wonder he would have picked Pippen over Magic. Not only that, we know Magic has HIV/AIDS and nothing against Magic, I like him a lot, but I wouldn't trust him to make it through an 82 game season healthy.

    Malone would have carried the scoring load, and a broken down Bird wasn't going to be worth much on the offensive side of the floor. So even in Malone's team, Pippen would be 2nd/3rd option.

    Again, not sure what's so bad about being the perfect complementary player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nwfisch View Post
    MAYBE, JUST MAYBE the Bulls traded Thomas because they didn't think he'd amount to anything, and is of a lesser caliber than players like Amare, Bosh, and Boozer. Being cheap on Thomas isn't mutually exclusive of Thomas being bad at basketball.


    Considering Malone was given Stockton, its no wonder he would have picked Pippen over Magic. Not only that, we know Magic has HIV/AIDS and nothing against Magic, I like him a lot, but I wouldn't trust him to make it through an 82 game season healthy.

    Malone would have carried the scoring load, and a broken down Bird wasn't going to be worth much on the offensive side of the floor. So even in Malone's team, Pippen would be 2nd/3rd option.

    Again, not sure what's so bad about being the perfect complementary player.
    The Bulls were trying to trade Thomas for a couple of years...Paxson was upset with Del Negro for badmouthing Thomas around the league while they were trying to trade him. It was obvious he wouldn't live up to his potential so they let him go. He can't get 30mpg playing in Charlotte. They got a pick that will be unprotected in 2016 I believe. But they wanted to get rid of Tyrus for a few years. Plus they got Taj Gibson, who is a better player, to take his minutes.

    People bring up money as if dude was going to get a max contract. If someone else overpaid and he walked for nothing, the whiners would whine about that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nwfisch View Post
    MAYBE, JUST MAYBE the Bulls traded Thomas because they didn't think he'd amount to anything, and is of a lesser caliber than players like Amare, Bosh, and Boozer. Being cheap on Thomas isn't mutually exclusive of Thomas being bad at basketball.


    Considering Malone was given Stockton, its no wonder he would have picked Pippen over Magic. Not only that, we know Magic has HIV/AIDS and nothing against Magic, I like him a lot, but I wouldn't trust him to make it through an 82 game season healthy.

    Malone would have carried the scoring load, and a broken down Bird wasn't going to be worth much on the offensive side of the floor. So even in Malone's team, Pippen would be 2nd/3rd option.

    Again, not sure what's so bad about being the perfect complementary player.
    Malone was an alpha dog...notice Malone said "besides Stockton..." he would take Pippen. Pippen can't run pick and roll as well as Stockton did. However, Pippen played great defense and had no problem taking the secondary role...THAT is most likely why Malone picked Pippen.

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    Good news! you can play as pippen after all.

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