If the Bulls had Nikola Mirotic, would they be rightful title favorites?

RamiTheBullsFan · Jul 29, 2013

this season?

C- Joakim Noah. Taj Gibson.
PF- Nikola Mirotic. Carlos Boozer.
SF- Luol Deng. Tony Snell.
SG- Jimmy Butler. Kirk Hinrich.
PG- Derrick Rose. Marquis Teague.

Follow-up question: If you think they would be favorites, do you also think the Bulls should go ahead and re-sign Luol Deng and Jimmy Butler and keep this core group going forward into the foreseeable future?

houheffna · Jul 29, 2013

Not because of a rookie from Europe...and no he wouldn't be starting over Boozer.

FirstTimer · Jul 29, 2013

RamiTheBullsFan · Jul 29, 2013

houheffna said:
Not because of a rookie from Europe...and no he wouldn't be starting over Boozer.

I don't know if he would be starting over Boozer, this season, hypothetically. My guess is not. However, I believe that Mirotic would be the more important player in a playoff series vs. the Heat or Thunder than Boozer due to his superior all-around scoring ability. What the Bulls need desperately is a legitimate second scoring option to Derrick Rose so I believe that will end up being a lethal pick-and-pop combination once the F.O. finally does decide to bring him over.

FirstTimer · Jul 29, 2013

RamiTheBullsFan said:
I don't know if he would be starting over Boozer, this season, hypothetically. My guess is not. However, I believe that Mirotic would be the more important player in a playoff series vs. the Heat or Thunder than Boozer due to his superior all-around scoring ability. What the Bulls need desperately is a legitimate second scoring option to Derrick Rose so I believe that will end up being a lethal pick-and-pop combination once the F.O. finally does decide to bring him over.

You're assuming he'll be a good NBA player

zack54attack · Jul 29, 2013

No they wouldn't be...

I don't think he makes them better than Miami or even Indiana at this point.

RamiTheBullsFan · Jul 29, 2013

FirstTimer said:
You're assuming he'll be a good NBA player

Fair enough but I don't know if that is a bad assumption. Mirotic was the MVP of the Spanish League and averaged 50+% overall/40+% from three/90+% from the line. From at least one accounts I've heard, Mirotic could have been picked #1 overall in the draft a month ago by Cleveland if he had been available. That is not to say that he won't end up being the next Kwame Brown/Adam Morrison as opposed to the Dirk Nowitzki type. But it definitely gives one hope.

FirstTimer · Jul 29, 2013

RamiTheBullsFan said:
Fair enough but I don't know if that is a bad assumption. Mirotic was the MVP of the Spanish League and averaged 50+% overall/40+% from three/90+% from the line. From at least one accounts I've heard, Mirotic could have been picked #1 overall in the draft a month ago by Cleveland if he had been available. That is not to say that he won't end up being the next Kwame Brown/Adam Morrison as opposed to the Dirk Nowitzki type. But it definitely gives one hope.

Don't care. An unproven euro would not make the Bulls title contenders.

RamiTheBullsFan · Jul 29, 2013

zack54attack said:
No they wouldn't be...

I don't think he makes them better than Miami or even Indiana at this point.

Not sold on Indiana being favorites over the Bulls. I remember when people were pointing at NY's starting line-up and comparing the talent to the Bulls (i.e. Boozer vs. Amare; Chandler vs. Noah; Deng vs. Anthony; Fields vs. Bogans) and saying that the Bulls would get stomped. The Bulls and Pacers are very similar teams- defensive-minded, good rebounding, semi-decent depth- with one exception: Derrick Rose. Last year, it was pretty obvious Indiana would be better with D-Rose out but I don't see a healthy Bulls team losing to Indiana in a seven-game series.

RamiTheBullsFan · Jul 29, 2013

FirstTimer said:
Don't care. An unproven euro would not make the Bulls title contenders.

The Bulls have already been title contenders for two years before Derrick Rose tore his ACL. That isn't the issue; it's whether Mirotic would make them rightful favorites. It is a hard question to answer right now, granted, but we might get the chance to find out soon.

Crystallas · Jul 29, 2013

Mirotic would need at least a year, to get himself accustomed to the NBA.

FirstTimer · Jul 29, 2013

RamiTheBullsFan said:
Not sold on Indiana being favorites over the Bulls. I remember when people were pointing at NY's starting line-up and comparing the talent to the Bulls (i.e. Boozer vs. Amare; Chandler vs. Noah; Deng vs. Anthony; Fields vs. Bogans) and saying that the Bulls would get stomped. The Bulls and Pacers are very similar teams- defensive-minded, good rebounding, semi-decent depth- with one exception: Derrick Rose. Last year, it was pretty obvious Indiana would be better with D-Rose out but I don't see a healthy Bulls team losing to Indiana in a seven-game series.

Indiana >>>>> Chicago rather easily. You're assuming Rose comes back like he was too. NY finished with the 2 seed. The Bulls were the 5. Seems people were right.

All the Bulls best players have major question marks and/or injury issues

I love Bulls fans assuming health constantly, when their team hasn't been healthy in 4 years

clonetrooper264 · Jul 29, 2013

This season? Not likely.

FirstTimer · Jul 29, 2013

RamiTheBullsFan said:
The Bulls have already been title contenders for two years before Derrick Rose tore his ACL. That isn't the issue; it's whether Mirotic would make them rightful favorites. It is a hard question to answer right now, granted, but we might get the chance to find out soon.

No it's not a hard question. An unproven euro would not make this Bulls team rightful contenders.

Next topic

FirstTimer · Jul 29, 2013

This Build team is far worse overall than those Rose teams from 2 years ago. They are irrelevant.

RamiTheBullsFan · Jul 29, 2013

Crystallas said:
Mirotic would need at least a year, to get himself accustomed to the NBA.

I wonder if he would need to be on superstar level in order to make the Bulls a "complete" team. If he came on and gave the Bulls more dependable offense, that just might be the recipe to dethrone Miami- even if he didn't come over right away and average 20 points. I'm not necessarily saying that Mirotic would need to be a stretch 4 on MVP-contending level; I wonder if he could give the Bulls the competitive edge over the other title contender just on Rookie of the Year-contending level.

Crystallas · Jul 29, 2013

He wouldn't have to be on a superstar level. Just fill the needs and be efficient, then the rest settles on other players.

FirstTimer · Jul 29, 2013

RamiTheBullsFan said:
I wonder if he would need to be on superstar level in order to make the Bulls a "complete" team. If he came on and gave the Bulls more dependable offense, that just might be the recipe to dethrone Miami- even if he didn't come over right away and average 20 points. I'm not necessarily saying that Mirotic would need to be a stretch 4 on MVP-contending level; I wonder if he could give the Bulls the competitive edge over the other title contender just on Rookie of the Year-contending level.

No.

RamiTheBullsFan · Jul 29, 2013

FirstTimer said:
This Build team is far worse overall than those Rose teams from 2 years ago. They are irrelevant.

I wouldn't say far worse overall, personally. Their depth has diminished but they added Jimmy Butler who is young and very solid all-around. A lot depends on his development where I fear that he will max out on his offensive ceiling far sooner than he will defensively and on intangibles.

FirstTimer · Jul 29, 2013

RamiTheBullsFan said:
I wouldn't say far worse overall, personally. Their depth has diminished but they added Jimmy Butler who is young and very solid all-around. A lot depends on his development where I fear that he will max out on his offensive ceiling far sooner than he will defensively and on intangibles.

I would. Butler is unproven over the long haul. Next topic.

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