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Hence the song title
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Hence the song title
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And hence why I said it is really not a great example of lyrical genius. It is a great song because of the musical composition and Mercury genius as a performer.
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Sounds like you're listening to the wrong "rock" music.
Go listen to some Modest Mouse or Queens of the Stone Age.
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if you rhyme twice within a line, the lyrics are more complex? So if song lyrics included "flat" and "bat" in one line, would they be mind blowing to you?
Also, why does a song need to rhyme at all? I listen to songs that have no rhyming schemes at all. They're songs that tell stories..
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No one said a song needs to rhyme to be good. Prose is a less complex structure than a rhyme but that doesn't mean that it is better or worse. It just means it is technically more complex. Just like it is technically more complex to compose a sonnet than a regular rhyme because a sonnet requires you to follow more restrictive rules in its composition.
The point is Rap music and Rock music are fundamentally different so the poster who was trying to judge rap music based on things more relevant to rock and roll was off base. Put another way rap to me is words accompanied by music or a beat. Rock is music accompanied by words. The focus is different.
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this makes me want to break out my judgment night soundtrack
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhyme_scheme
Just a quick blurb on rhyme schemes. Again, this is from a technical aspect. You can still have a basic rhyme scheme that from an artistic perspective is better than a more complex rhyme scheme but point is certain rhyme schemes are technically more complex. Rap is far more concerned with that complexity than rock music is.
Nas and Eminem for example get props because they use a lot of multi's or internal rhymes. Jay-Z and Little Wayne are known more for puns and double entendres.
Just a quick blurb on rhyme schemes. Again, this is from a technical aspect. You can still have a basic rhyme scheme that from an artistic perspective is better than a more complex rhyme scheme but point is certain rhyme schemes are technically more complex. Rap is far more concerned with that complexity than rock music is.
Nas and Eminem for example get props because they use a lot of multi's or internal rhymes. Jay-Z and Little Wayne are known more for puns and double entendres.
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has anyone ever rapped in iambic pentameter?
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It could be argued that a lot of rap is done in Iambic Pentameter. Eminem has a few songs that have verses in it. I believe 'The Kids' is one of them and as the below teacher noted in trying to get his kids to see the value in studying Shakespeare, the first verse of I am is allegedly in IP. Now I haven't bothered to prove it so take it with a grain of salt. Probably best if you listened to it so you can hear when he puts stress on the words.
http://mscronksclass.weebly.com/1/post/2011/11/eminem-ic-pentameter.html
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There's VOmit ON his SWEATer alREADy, mom's spaGHETTi
He's NERVous, but ON the SURFace he LOOKS calm and READy
To DROP BOMBS, but HE keeps ON forGETtin
What HE wrote DOWN, the WHOLE crowd GOES so LOUD
He OPens his MOUTH, BUT the WORDS won't come OUT
He's CHOKin, how EVeryBODy's JOKin NOW
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sure. listen to that live and then listen to any rap song live. let me know which is more entertaining or has the crowd more into it? waiting for you to show me up
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I am pretty sure Lil Wayne can play a good bit of instruments and he is drugged out. Also, I bet a lot more rappers can play instruments then you think. Just because you don't like a certain genre of music doesn't mean its trash because its not your personal taste. You talk about Rock. What about Kiss? They play instruments and are the cheesiest main stream fuck heads that have ever been around. They have absolutely no substance. Same with Nickleback.
To say they aren't lyrical geniuses means that either you haven't listened to some good artist songs or you are just close minded about your music. Timberland and Pharrell are highly respected in the rock world. They create the beats you talk about. It is just comical to think that these guys should be looked down upon because they don't play instruments when that is not what they are going for. Its like berating a poet because he didn't write a novel. That's not what he is going for.
To say they aren't lyrical geniuses means that either you haven't listened to some good artist songs or you are just close minded about your music. Timberland and Pharrell are highly respected in the rock world. They create the beats you talk about. It is just comical to think that these guys should be looked down upon because they don't play instruments when that is not what they are going for. Its like berating a poet because he didn't write a novel. That's not what he is going for.
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Kiss gave us Nothin to Lose...which might be the best lyrical song...ever!
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have I mentioned that I hate the chili peppers? and eric clapton?
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Not really though...they are both derived musically from the same historical perspective
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[video=youtube;Tp_FbBtc5Ko]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Tp_FbBtc5Ko[/video]
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Also, this may seem a little weird but this one of the best performances and its by a girl.
[video=youtube;O-0p8GuSvog]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-0p8GuSvog[/video]
SHe rocks the fuck out and the crowd is going nuts.
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I almost drive into oncoming traffic when they come on the radio
