The 2013 Season Jay Cutler Discussion Thread

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The QBR is the dumbest fucking stat ever tracked.

Week 1-Andy Dalton in a loss to the bears- 282 yards, 2 tds and 2 ints. QBR-2nd ranked overall, QBR of 91.8
Peyton manning throws 7 tds and 0 picks, 462 yards QBR-5th ranked overall, 83.6

week 2- Peyton Manning has 2 touchdowns and 307 yards, no picks..... and his QBR is 89.1 #2 overall.
Andy Dalton has a 1 td, no interception, 280 yard win over the steelers..... and gets a 39.5 #23 overall.


See the problems?
Manning with almost a perfect game gets penalized because he beat the ever loving snot out of his opponent so badly, that the later touchdowns and yardage counted for nothing.

Dalton was far better in week 2 than week 1.... yet his QBR has a 50 point gap.
The formula with which they weight the value of passes is horribly flawed.
 
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Spartan said:
Fuck QBR, it's not an official stat so why reference it? The next 2 games are all that's important. Cutler has a history of failing his teams in the stretch when the pressure is on. if he doesn't fail the Bears this year then that's a good thing and the Bears will go to the playoffs, if just to be a one and done team. If he does fail, don't sign him even at a bargain basement price. Just let him walk.
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So what you're saying is we should waste the offense we have now developing a draft pick and/or we should pick up one of the journeymen QBs available and hope for the best? Exactly how long do you think this offensive roster is going to be together? Obviously not including the quarterbacks.
 
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xer0h0ur said:
So what you're saying is we should waste the offense we have now developing a draft pick and/or we should pick up one of the journeymen QBs available and hope for the best? Exactly how long do you think this offensive roster is going to be together? Obviously not including the quarterbacks.
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Do you really care what Spartan thinks? You are better than this xero.
 
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Do you really care what Spartan thinks? You are better than this xero.
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I know bro, I just have approximately 3.5 hours to kill before I close my shoe stores.
 
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I know bro, I just have approximately 3.5 hours to kill before I close my shoe stores.
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X...speaking of shoes...Does anyone make any good shoes anymore?..I used to wear Johnston and Murphys all the time, and they were great..Now, theyre crap..Whats a good brand??
 
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I'm not a fan of the QBR. They need to just stick with the original RTG.
 
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xer0h0ur said:
So what you're saying is we should waste the offense we have now developing a draft pick and/or we should pick up one of the journeymen QBs available and hope for the best? Exactly how long do you think this offensive roster is going to be together? Obviously not including the quarterbacks.
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How would this be wasting the offense we have now, when a QB of Josh McCown's caliber can step in with the talent that is there and play at a high level? And to be clear I have said all year long that if Cutler can be signed to a reasonable contract than I would be fine with Cutler coming back, but I would think most fans would see the benefit if they let Cutler walk and bring in a rookie with McCown or a journeyman QB on the roster.
 
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BearsBud said:
X...speaking of shoes...Does anyone make any good shoes anymore?..I used to wear Johnston and Murphys all the time, and they were great..Now, theyre crap..Whats a good brand??
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I wear Allen Edmonds. They are great.
 
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You're welcome.

Invest in a good pair of overshoes. They will last for years.
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My last pair of J&M's, the sole ripped off after like a year of casual use. I took em to the shoe repair, he said "throw em out"..He recommended Cole Haan, but I didnt see anything I liked
 
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hey can we get back on topic? between the personal bitch fights and the off topic stuff there's barely any football talk on this football board
 
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Cutlers great...No he isnt
 
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BearsBud said:
My last pair of J&M's, the sole ripped off after like a year of casual use. I took em to the shoe repair, he said "throw em out"..He recommended Cole Haan, but I didnt see anything I liked
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Cole Haan is great too. Allen Edmonds are magnificent.
 
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BearsBud said:
X...speaking of shoes...Does anyone make any good shoes anymore?..I used to wear Johnston and Murphys all the time, and they were great..Now, theyre crap..Whats a good brand??
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Well just like anything else what category are you looking at? You talking about casuals or dress shoes? What are you looking for, some loafers, oxfords, boat shoes, boots, lace up slip-ons or any of the other types for that matter. I can go all day here lol. As for quality you're really up shit creek without a paddle nowadays. Unfortunately somewhere in the range of 80-90% of the shoe industry manufactures in Asian countries so quality has gone to complete shit and everything gets knocked off.
 
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hey can we get back on topic? between the personal bitch fights and the off topic stuff there's barely any football talk on this football board
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Go ahead, point us back in the right direction. No one wants to hear about your Steve Maddens anyhow.
 
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xer0h0ur said:
Well just like anything else what category are you looking at? You talking about casuals or dress shoes? Looking for some loafers, oxfords, boat shoes, boots, lace up slip-ons? I can go all day here lol. As for quality you're really up shit creek without a paddle nowadays. Unfortunately somewhere in the range of 80-90% of the shoe industry manufactures in Asian countries so quality has gone to complete shit and everything gets knocked off.
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Casual boots like an ankle boot/Chukka, etc..I dont wear dress shoes that often anymore
 
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How would this be wasting the offense we have now, when a QB of Josh McCown's caliber can step in with the talent that is there and play at a high level? And to be clear I have said all year long that if Cutler can be signed to a reasonable contract than I would be fine with Cutler coming back, but I would think most fans would see the benefit if they let Cutler walk and bring in a rookie with McCown or a journeyman QB on the roster.
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Have you missed the speculation of Josh earning a 3-4 million dollar contract for a single year? The entire premise of my line of questioning is assuming neither Cutler or McCown are re-signed due to these numbers.
 
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xer0h0ur said:
Have you missed the speculation of Josh earning a 3-4 million dollar contract for a single year? The entire premise of my line of questioning is assuming neither Cutler or McCown are re-signed due to these numbers.
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Maybe Orton or Rex? That would keep this forum going for another year...
 
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