Tyrus Untouchable?!?

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rodman wrote:
I agree Derrick is the only untouchable. Deng used to be pretty much, but I guess right now, even Pax is going to trade him if an acceptable offer comes his way.
Tyrus should be in the mix for the right trade, but definitely not a throw in or a sweetener in any deal.
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I agree, Tyrus has raised his value from "throw in" to "centerpiece" of a trade IMO.
 

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The only reason he is centerpiece is because of economy though
 
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I don't know, I think his upside and potential are good enough to make him valuable regardless of his contract expiring. If a team is going to rebuild, he seems like a desirable piece to take a chance on.
 
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Dpauley23 wrote:
So you rather take him than Beasley?
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I'd take Beasley because the two are close and Beasley's on a reasonable contract for 3 more years after this one whereas Tyrus will require an expensive extension.

However, I think Tyrus has similar potential to Beasley.
 
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Dpauley23 wrote:
I don't know, but I guess im just not fan of Tyrus
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Beasley will never be a good defender, he doesn't have the size, athleticism, or drive.

Beasley has a cap on his ceiling (a high cap, but a cap nonetheless) for the same reasons.

Tyrus on the other hand will likely be a very good defender eventually, and has a lot of potential offensively due to his athleticism. The scary thing about Tyrus is one injury could end his career if he doesn't come back fully athletically.

Beasley's got a high floor because his skill level is so high, he's going to be a good offensive player.
 

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I just don't think Tyrus will ever listen. He never listens to anything VDN has to say, but Rose is the only one who does listen to him
 

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Dpauley23 wrote:
I just don't think Tyrus will ever listen. He never listens to anything VDN has to say, but Rose is the only one who does listen to him
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no one listens to VDN. no one ever has. no one ever will. vinny wants tyrus to exclusively shoot jumpers. i think we realize that is a bad decision. it's better if tyrus ignores him. now if he ignores del harris, i want tyrus cut, but that hasn't seemed to be a problem so far.
 

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bullsman24 wrote:
Dpauley23 wrote:
I just don't think Tyrus will ever listen. He never listens to anything VDN has to say, but Rose is the only one who does listen to him
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no one listens to VDN. no one ever has. no one ever will. vinny wants tyrus to exclusively shoot jumpers. i think we realize that is a bad decision. it's better if tyrus ignores him. now if he ignores del harris, i want tyrus cut, but that hasn't seemed to be a problem so far.
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Tyrus shooting that jumper isn't such a bad thing. I just hope he uses the threat of the jumper to help him take his man off the dribble more, and doesn't fall in love with it. I can certainly see Doug's dream of Tyrus becoiming a good offensive weapon coming true with his ballhandling and athleticism. Unfortunately he thinks of himself as a shooter rather than a driver who can shoot.
 

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Bullsman did you not get my point that Rose does listen to garbage VDN feeds the team
 
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