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Where Theo found Joel Pinero.
Where Theo found Joel Pinero.
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Classic!
Maybe he was throwing up after he found out what kind of pitcher Chris Volstad really was?
Maybe he was throwing up after he found out what kind of pitcher Chris Volstad really was?
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He should be happy though. It isn't too often that VP makes more annually than 16 of his current players, especially in todays baseball market.
Hope that changes soon.
Hope that changes soon.
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I suppose this is what passes for wit these days.
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I can't imagine that happens to any other professional sports teams outside of maybe Houston Astros and Miami Marlins.
Not really the company you want to be keeping.
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Also looks like this when finished. PATIENCE people....PATIENCE.
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How many 100 loss seasons did he have in Boston?Also looks like this when finished. PATIENCE people....PATIENCE.
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Nah! Some of us prefer Kettle One over Koolaid
The first one ensures a good buzz. The latter ensures nothing but a headache.
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Did he inherit a horrible team in Boston with AWFUL contracts?
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To each their own, but seems to me kettle one has made several here angry drunks. I prefer not to live my life angry but like I said, to each their own.
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Also looks like this when finished. PATIENCE people....PATIENCE.
Why would we want to do that when we could've added $40 million more in payroll with Brian McCann and Shin-Soo Choo and still only won 76 games? I mean, at least we would've spent more money!
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Or maybe if they landed Sanchez and Tanaka, they would have one of the top 4 or 5 rotations in the National League and by virtue of not having E-Jax, they would have a surplus to spend on another bona fide player. I guess it's how you spend the 40 million.
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It's well documented that Sanchez played the Cubs brass to get an extra $5-7 million from the Tigers -- he didn't want to leave. And I don't think anyone will ever know what really went down in the Tanaka negotiations. I'm guessing the Cubs did end up making him a substantial offer, but due to how people have described Tanaka, he probably was "really" only considering New York or one of the teams in California.
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So in reality, Theo didn't turn shit into wine?
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Not sure how that would work considering Sanchez got significantly more than Jackson who was his replacement in essence and Hammel's got $6 mil to the $23 mil AAV they offered Tanaka. In fact, it's entirely likely they would have had fewer players signed rather than more. Whether or not they would be better is another argument and potentially a valid one. I'm just saying the viability of signing both and then adding another impact player is highly unlikely.
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He turned the Red Sox into a good team. It's taken him longer here of course, look at the contracts Hendry had with this team. Do you really want him to go out and spend (last year and this year) on big FA's when they knew they weren't ready to compete?
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It was well documented by Theo himself at the winter meetings a year ago that elite players wanted to play for the Cubs regardless of what the teams condition was in. So they should have been able to get him if they wanted to.
The Cubs could have forced someone elses hand and made them fold, but it always seems to be someone else doing it to the Cubs.
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But you implied he didn't inherit a horrible team. (He didn't).
The big move to up the ante on offense was Bonifacio, Royals scraps.
Then as the season starts, sign Joel Pinero, who hasn't pitched since 2011.
All we want as fans is improvement and hope at the MLB level. We're not getting that now.
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Seems more likely to me that Theo is embellishing or the way they want to sign players isn't in line with what the players want(eg no trade/opt out).
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Why are people always assuming that you if you offer a guy a little more money, a player is going to make that take precedence over the overall situation of the team? Why would he turn down a chance to join a rotation with Verlander and Scherzer? Sanchez's agent said the offer they received from the Cubs was for $75 million (some sources say $77 million) and the fact that the Tigers gave up a lot when they acquired him and Omar Infante from the Marlins, they were willing to spend more in order to keep him. The deal unraveled for the Cubs when the Tigers also included a club option sixth year at $16 million with a $5 million dollar buyout -- something the Cubs weren't willing to do.
