TheStig
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Hendu0520 wrote:
You really underrate having a second superstar on the team. Hakeem never had that to take off pressure till he got a heavily declining Drexler. Shaq always had a young Penny, Kobe, Wade and even now has steve nash(old but still top 5 at his postion). It takes a lot off when you don't have to do what Lebron does for a decade. I mean really, he made cassell, smith, horry and maxwell look like good.RPK wrote:
Hakeem was better then Shaq...
Had every post move and even invented some moves.
Clutch playoff performer.
As good as he was offensively, he was even better defensively.
Let's look at some of his accolades...
*Only player in NBA history to have won MVP, Finals MVP and Defensive Player of the Year awards in the same season (1994).
*One of the 4 players in NBA history to have ever recorded a quadruple-double.
*Olajuwon also won the rebounding and blocked shots titles in 1989-90, becoming the third player ever (after Abdul-Jabbar and Bill Walton) to lead the league in both categories during the same season.
*All-time leader in blocked shots.
*Olajuwon is also in the top ten in blocks, scoring, rebounding, and STEALS. He is the only player in NBA history placed in the top ten for all four categories.
*All-time NBA Playoffs leader in total blocks with 472 and blocks per game with 3.3 per game
*Olajuwon ranks 7th all-time in STEALS and is the highest ranked center.
*In 1989, Olajuwon had 282 blocks and 218 steals, becoming the only NBA player to record over 200 blocks and 200 steals in a season
Come on, not only could he block you, but he had amazingly agile hands that he would steal the ball from you too! When do you ever hear about a center stealing the ball?
The MVP, Finals MVP, and DPOY thing is cool but that just proves that the writers got it right for once. Jordan could have won all three in one year, Shaq was always underrated as a defender so he never got a DPOY but IMO should have. So that could have very easily have coincided in one year for other players as well. To me the MVP should have won all of those awards most of the time, he is the best player, just shows the people voting are stupid.
Ok total stats are just because he played so long, and Shaq is not done yet so we can't do total stats. So you can give us blocks and steals that Olajuwon was better at. Shaq had the most altered shots by his body that I have ever seen. No one even came into the paint and I have always felt that kept his blocks stats down. Ok so Shaq was too big to steal as many as Hakeem.
Lets take there head to head matchup when Shaq was a 3rd year player on the biggest stage of the finals. I know Hakeem hit the big shots but his team was better and the Magic were young and I think overwhelmed after the Nick Anderson collapse, it would have been closer if he makes just one free throw, the Magic get game 1 and it could have been totally different.
Hakeem: 32.8ppg 11.5rpg 5.5apg 2spg 2bpg 48%fg 69%ft
(3rd yr)Shaq: 28ppg 12.5rpg 6.3apg .3spg 2.5bpg*** 59%fg 57%ft
Ok so the great shot blocker got out shot blocked by a youngster who wasn't that great at blocking shots. Shaq beat him in Rebounding, Assists, Blocks. Much better FG% because dunks and little hooks are always better than fancy moves and jump shots that dazzle the eye but are actaully less effective. So what if he invented moves, to me every player does moves that the others can't do. Shaq's devestating dropstep or turnaround baby hook, Ewing's cross the foul line jumper, The Dream Shake, the Robinson Drive to the Hoop. The closer you shoot to the basket the more efficient you will be, so Shaq's dropstep I will take because he will be the closest to the basket.
Further more: Hakeem's supporting cast was much better, all of their starters scored more than every other starter on the Magic except Penny(25.5ppg).
Clyde Drexler: 21.5ppg 9.5rpg 6.8apg 1spg .3bpg
Robert Horry: 17.8ppg 10rpg 3.8apg 3spg 2.3bpg
Mario Elie : 16.3ppg 4.3rpg 3.3apg 2spg 0
Sam Cassell: 14.3ppg 3.oapg
Here are the Magic afer Penny: 25.5ppg 8apg 4.8rpg 1spg .8bpg 45%3pt
Horace Grant:13.3ppg 12rpg 1.5apg .5spg .5bpg
Brian Shaw: 12.5ppg 3.3rpg 3.3apg .5spg .3bpg 38%3pt 21mpg far less than NAnderson,Dscott
Nick Anderson: 12.3 8.5rpg 4.3apg 2spg .5bpg 32%3pt
Dennis Scott: 10.5ppg 3.5rpg 2.3apg 1spg .3bpg 24% I repeat 24% from their sharpshooter.
Your gonna tell me that 2 years later after Penny's knee destroyed Orlando, that Shaq wouldn't have killed a Hakeem at his prime.
Other than Grant and Anderson rebounding well Shaq's supporting crew is the reason they lost, not to mention Nick Anderson missing the 4 ft's in game 1.
Hakeem might have total stats, a quadruple double, and 200stls/blks ooh.
Robinson had a quadruple double, 72pts to win a scoring title, from Shaq on the last day of the season, and probably has similar stats to Hakeem in steals and blocks.
Is David Robinson better than Shaq too?