beckdawg
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Figured this trade is coming to so might as well have a topic for it. A trade could come as early as ~3 weeks given that's roughly when they dealt Feldman last year and they probably don't want to hold on to both him and Shark until the deadline because it will be competition with themselves if they decide to deal Shark. Peter Gammons hinted they could get a similar package to what they got out of Garza.
Cubs den approached the topic here
http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/2014/06/cubs-may-trade-jason-hammel-early/
Of the teams mentioned I kind of like the Jays potential better if they were willing to include Daniel Norris. His A+ numbers and age are similar to what Edwards were in A last season. Norris and Nolan would be a good start and shouldn't be that tough of a sell. If they could also manage to pry away Gose I'd consider that to be a pretty similar level deal to what Garza went for. I view Edwards and Norris at similar levels and Nolin is perhaps a bit better than either Grimm or Ramirez was.
As for why the Jays would do something like this, They wouldn't have to touch Sanchez and Stroman as well as Roberto Osuna who was actually a head of Norris on some lists but both had similar peaks with a 55-60 potential. Also, Alberto Tirado(similar potential to Nolin) was in their top 10 prospects going into this year as well as 6-7 other pitchers in their 10-20 range. They also drafted Jeff Hoffman with their first round pick who probably would have went top 5 if he didn't hurt his elbow. So, they definitely have plenty of pitching to replace Norris and Nolin.
I think the cubs probably will want more than just those two however and if not Gose I'm not sure what is interesting enough. Also, it might be prudent to avoid trading Hammel to the O's if possible since they appear to be one of the best suited to make a run at Shark. I think that the talks with Toronto have gone on long enough that if they haven't already come to a deal on Shark they aren't going to barring some sort of desperation move from either side. On the other hand, they have had enough talk and likely scouted enough to know the players they want from each other which would make framing a trade for Hammel easier.
Cubs den approached the topic here
http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/2014/06/cubs-may-trade-jason-hammel-early/
Of the teams mentioned I kind of like the Jays potential better if they were willing to include Daniel Norris. His A+ numbers and age are similar to what Edwards were in A last season. Norris and Nolan would be a good start and shouldn't be that tough of a sell. If they could also manage to pry away Gose I'd consider that to be a pretty similar level deal to what Garza went for. I view Edwards and Norris at similar levels and Nolin is perhaps a bit better than either Grimm or Ramirez was.
As for why the Jays would do something like this, They wouldn't have to touch Sanchez and Stroman as well as Roberto Osuna who was actually a head of Norris on some lists but both had similar peaks with a 55-60 potential. Also, Alberto Tirado(similar potential to Nolin) was in their top 10 prospects going into this year as well as 6-7 other pitchers in their 10-20 range. They also drafted Jeff Hoffman with their first round pick who probably would have went top 5 if he didn't hurt his elbow. So, they definitely have plenty of pitching to replace Norris and Nolin.
I think the cubs probably will want more than just those two however and if not Gose I'm not sure what is interesting enough. Also, it might be prudent to avoid trading Hammel to the O's if possible since they appear to be one of the best suited to make a run at Shark. I think that the talks with Toronto have gone on long enough that if they haven't already come to a deal on Shark they aren't going to barring some sort of desperation move from either side. On the other hand, they have had enough talk and likely scouted enough to know the players they want from each other which would make framing a trade for Hammel easier.