Should the Cubs Chase a Top Pitcher this off-season

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CSF77 said:
2014: $ 90,062,659
2013: $118,914,500
2012: $ 97,669,500
2011: $127,789,000
2010: $103,080,000
2009: $ 96,068,500
2008: $121,189,332
2007: $108,671,833
2006: $102,750,667
2005: $ 75,178,000
2004: $ 65,212,500
2003: $ 51,010,000
2002: $ 57,052,833
2001: $ 65,628,667
2000: $ 31,200,000
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Funny.. people jump all over the cubs payroll , sox are in the same market and their payroll rivals the As , Astros, and Marlins over the years..... 9 of 15 years under 100 Mil
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chibears55 said:
Funny.. people jump all over the cubs payroll , sox are in the same market and their payroll rivals the As , Astros, and Marlins over the years..... 9 of 15 years under 100 Mil
Where all the Reinsdorf Cheap talk
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Do any attendance comparison. Do a viewership comparison. It is what it is...
 

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chibears55 said:
Funny.. people jump all over the cubs payroll , sox are in the same market and their payroll rivals the As , Astros, and Marlins over the years..... 9 of 15 years under 100 Mil
Where all the Reinsdorf Cheap talk
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But the fan support in Chicago skews well in favor of the Cubs. Come to think of it, how many people are really White Sox fans? To a large extent, it's about either being pro-Cubs or anti-Cubs in Chicago. Many of the anti-Cubs people become White Sox fans by default. So for many White Sox "fans", it's more about being anti-Cubs than it is pro-White Sox.

And if you doubt this, just check out how frequently the White Sox "fans" (ie anti-Cubs people) chime in on the Cubs board.

It speaks for itself.
 

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So about next season and starting pitching...going with CSF77's suggestion about Maeda

Maeda
Arrieta
Hendricks
Hammel
Wada

That looks OK for 2015 as the young hitters come up, doesn't it?
 
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Parade_Rain said:
So about next season and starting pitching...going with CSF77's suggestion about Maeda

Maeda
Arrieta
Hendricks
Hammel
Wada

That looks OK for 2015 as the young hitters come up, doesn't it?
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Their not bringing Hammel back... they got lucky with his first half, not gonna try and press that luck again..

Wood will probably get another opportunity to right this bad season

Key is what their going to do with Jackson
 

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Parade_Rain said:
So about next season and starting pitching...going with CSF77's suggestion about Maeda

Maeda
Arrieta
Hendricks
Hammel
Wada

That looks OK for 2015 as the young hitters come up, doesn't it?
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It's a crap shoot with pitching. It's really more about throwing balloons at darts than it is the opposite. But there is some mitigation of risk in focusing on different levels of assurance. Some pitchers are up and down and some pitchers take a steep decline quickly. Salary is a factor that heavily plays in to the cost of being wrong also. I think what you're putting out there is a good representation of weighing risk and cost but with the exception of paying for an arm that provides a decently high level of assurance in Maeda.

Several of the Japanese pitchers have been really good in recent years. There are some buyer beware issues to worry about in terms of usage, however.
 

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chibears55 said:
Their not bringing Hammel back... they got lucky with his first half, not gonna try and press that luck again..

Wood will probably get another opportunity to right this bad season

Key is what their going to do with Jackson
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I forgot about Wood. Doh! OK, so you insert Wood ahead of Hendricks and Wada. How does that look?
 
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Wada should not be in the rotation next year.
 

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Nevermind lefty. It's better to have a good RHP than a mediocre lefty.
 
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So what lefty replaces him on my list?
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The Cubs should be going after one of the big FA pitchers. If they miss, they should go mid tier guys. There is no reason for Wada to be in our rotation next year. He is not a ml starter on a decent team.
 
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I forgot about Wood. Doh! OK, so you insert Wood ahead of Hendricks and Wada. How does that look?
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Artieta Hendricks and wood are probably locks in rotation as of now....

They probably go after 1 TOR type starter or next level if they cant land a top one via FA


The 5th man will probably come from either
Jackson Doubront Straily Wada Rusin Beeler


Only way I see them bringing in a 2nd new starter VIA trade or FA is if they decide to trade wood
 

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SilenceS said:
The Cubs should be going after one of the big FA pitchers. If they miss, they should go mid tier guys. There is no reason for Wada to be in our rotation next year. He is not a ml starter on a decent team.
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As long as he continues to pitch the way that he is, he deserves to be a starter. He's cheaper than all our other options in Wood and Jackson.
 
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As long as he continues to pitch the way that he is, he deserves to be a starter. He's cheaper than all our other options in Wood and Jackson.
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He has pitched what 3 games? He is 33 years old. Remember when people thought Chris Rusin should have been in the rotation because he did well towards the end of last year. Yea, no, Wada is a swing man/injury depth nothing more.
 

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He has pitched what 3 games? He is 33 years old. Remember when people thought Chris Rusin should have been in the rotation because he did well towards the end of last year. Yea, no, Wada is a swing man/injury depth nothing more.
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It's not like Wada has spent all that time in the minors. He's been overseas for 2 years and we have team control for 6 years(I think?). Just because Chris Rusin didn't do well, doesn't mean that Wada can't. As long as he pitches well all year, I see him being a back end guy next year.
 
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