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It's not underestimating players, as much as it's knowing what to expect with Thibs and rookies. Unless injuries line up rookies to get big minutes, he doesn't play them often.

this might be a myth

Butler - we had Deng/Brewer
Teague - he sucked/shouldn't have got minutes
Snell - he sucked/shouldn't have got minutes

Doug will play atleast 25 a game unless he looks totally lost out there like Snell/Teague

Nikola i dont know since the frontcourt is so full but i dont think the front office would be very happy with him geting garbage minutes when they are paying him 5m
 

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Those guys got minutes due to injuries. When Butler was healthy, Snell, even though Thibodeau gave him rave reviews himself, was benched again, and then rarely had time to warm up the the floor by the time he was out there(if he was out there.)

Snell started because Rose was out, DJ wasn't on the team yet, Butler was hurt, Luol was traded, and MDJ was the only other guy that covered that position left. No Jimmy, no Deng = stuck with playing a rookie.

Thibs is pretty straight. He'll defend and cover for his guys, but he wasn't high on Teague.
 

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Those guys got minutes due to injuries. When Butler was healthy, Snell, even though Thibodeau gave him rave reviews himself, was benched again, and then rarely had time to warm up the the floor by the time he was out there(if he was out there.)

Snell started because Rose was out, DJ wasn't on the team yet, Butler was hurt, Luol was traded, and MDJ was the only other guy that covered that position left. No Jimmy, no Deng = stuck with playing a rookie.

Thibs is pretty straight. He'll defend and cover for his guys, but he wasn't high on Teague.

no my point was Teague/Snell sucked and thats why thibs didn't play them....this whole "thibs don't like rookies" thing might be a myth

we need Doug to be a big contributor if we are going to do anything this year....so Thibs playing him like he did Snell isnt gonna cut it
 

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no my point was Teague/Snell sucked and thats why thibs didn't play them....this whole "thibs don't like rookies" thing might be a myth

we need Doug to be a big contributor if we are going to do anything this year....so Thibs playing him like he did Snell isnt gonna cut it

Yeah, I agree that it's a myth that Thibs doesn't like rookies. Thus why i didn't use those words.
 

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All I know is that if Thibs wants this team to make a deep run (healthy roster withstanding), he's going to need to take a page out of Pop's book and utilize his bench. Limit starter time in blowouts (whether it's a win or loss). Rose especially needs to start the season on limited minutes, despite "how ready" he is. When you consider he'll already have some time under his belt with the US team, keeping him around the 30 minute threshold is going to help keep him fresh as the season rolls on. The attitude of the front office has seemed extremely high on all of our offseason acquisitions, which leads me to believe there'll be a more evenly distributed workload. I've felt like both McDermott and Mirotic can make meaningful contributions early.
 

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All I know is that if Thibs wants this team to make a deep run (healthy roster withstanding), he's going to need to take a page out of Pop's book.

There is an awful lot of talk about Tibs taking a page out of Popovich's book. I can tell people right now.

The Bulls offense will look nothing like the Spurs offense.

Tibs will not rotate players like Popovich does.

Unless Tibs does a 180 from what he has done the last 4 years we should get these thoughts out of our head, less we end up highly disappointed.
 

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All I know is No one know's exactly how the Bulls offense is gonna look.
 

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Everything is speculation until after preseason...and even then it's still a shot in the dark.
 

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Everything is speculation until after preseason...and even then it's still a shot in the dark.

It is not speculative to say the Bulls offense will not look like the Spurs offense. The Bulls don't have the players to do what the Spurs do and Tibs has already talked about running players of the double screens.

The Bulls are going to do what they do. I see no reason to think Tibs is going to make drastic changes to what he has done for the last 4 years.
 

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It is not speculative to say the Bulls offense will not look like the Spurs offense. The Bulls don't have the players to do what the Spurs do and Tibs has already talked about running players of the double screens.

The Bulls are going to do what they do. I see no reason to think Tibs is going to make drastic changes to what he has done for the last 4 years.
More referring to minutes, but hey, who knows? You're probably right in that we're not going to be the Spurs...we're not built like that, but we could still be pretty good offensively. If Thibs suddenly learns to manage minutes like the Spurs do, that will be huge in and of itself.
 

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I'd say the Bulls are trying to be very Spurs like. What the Spurs do is get quality shots, and then hit them. Their overall team passing is the key to getting those open shots. The '3" being the most important. I'd say that the Bulls adding two near 50% 3 specialists in Niko and McD is a good start, myself. The Bulls bigs fit the passing style as well. Then they play defense. Here's a good article......

What they do well, perhaps better than any other team in the NBA outside of Miami, is generate quality shots, with a deep, talented roster capable of consistently converting them. Fortunately for them, a team’s ability to put the ball through the hoop is the single-most important facet in basketball, accounting for 40 percent of a team’s success by Oliver’s estimation.


The Spurs rank second in effective field-goal percentage, another one of those new-fangled stats that accounts for the extra value of 3-pointers compared to 2-point shots. Their 53.7 percentage trails only the Heat, which leads with a scorching 56.4.
Broken down into more traditional measures, the Spurs are:


2nd in overall shooting (48.8 percent)
4th in 2-point shooting (52.0)
1st in 3-point shooting (39.1)
3rd in the restricted area (65.3)


(For reference, Miami — which meets the Spurs Thursday at the AT&T Center — ranks first in every category but 3-point shooting, where they’re 10th.)
Yet another measure of the Spurs’ ability to generate great looks, courtesy of NBA.com and SportVU: 73.9 percent of their jump shots are uncontested, trailing only Miami (75.6), Atlanta (75.4) and Philadelphia (75.3), and well above the league average of 69.1.


You’ll note that Atlanta and Philadelphia are both coached by Popovich disciples, further proof that the Spurs’ approach works. (Said Sixers coach Brett Brown of the system he learned in San Antonio: “The Spurs were so interesting because they created a hybrid of classic NBA pick-and-roll basketball, along with European motion, along with speed. And that’s the perfect world. I lived it, and breathed it, and saw it grow.”)

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Bulls tried to implement new stuff on offense last year

it was pretty much ditched after rose got hurt
 

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Regardless of who get's the lion's share of what minutes, if this roster remains healthy, I fully believe the Bulls will finish with the best record in the NBA. People tend to forget that each full season under Thibs with a healthy Rose, the team was #1 overall. That was with a less deeper, less talented and versatile bench. This team is deeper with talent that can play multiple positions, and is more balanced between offense and defense. There's not going to be as many 5-7 minute stretches where the team can't score.
 

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Regardless of who get's the lion's share of what minutes, if this roster remains healthy, I fully believe the Bulls will finish with the best record in the NBA. People tend to forget that each full season under Thibs with a healthy Rose, the team was #1 overall. That was with a less deeper, less talented and versatile bench. This team is deeper with talent that can play multiple positions, and is more balanced between offense and defense. There's not going to be as many 5-7 minute stretches where the team can't score.


I think that the best team that the Bulls had was the one with Korver and the rest of the bench mob not the team they have now. That bench was an excellent one.
 

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Bulls tried to implement new stuff on offense last year

it was pretty much ditched after rose got hurt

What's your point? :dunno: That was last year. THIS year.... we added two 50% (almost) 3 pt shooters, a microwave b/u PG, the 1st post big man since Thib's has been here, and Rose is back!
 

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I think that the best team that the Bulls had was the one with Korver and the rest of the bench mob not the team they have now. That bench was an excellent one.

Who were their G's?
 

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What's your point? :dunno: That was last year. THIS year.... we added two 50% (almost) 3 pt shooters, a microwave b/u PG, the 1st post big man since Thib's has been here, and Rose is back!
Not to undermine your point, but McDermott and Mirotic probably won't be shooting near 50% from 3. 40% is probably closer to what they'll average...though that's still very good.
 

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Not to undermine your point, but McDermott and Mirotic probably won't be shooting near 50% from 3. 40% is probably closer to what they'll average...though that's still very good.

I disagree. Korver shot 47% last year. I think McD is better than Korver. McD has shot 48% over his last 3 years of College, with two 49% recently. Niko has averaged 46% from 3 his entire career. I just don't see these guys dropping so much just cuz the NBA, myself.
 

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I disagree. Korver shot 47% last year. I think McD is better than Korver. McD has shot 48% over his last 3 years of College, with two 49% recently. Niko has averaged 46% from 3 his entire career. I just don't see these guys dropping so much just cuz the NBA, myself.
Well the lines are closer in Euroleague and NCAA so that might count for something. Though with McDermott, he shot so many contested 3s and he has deep range anyway, you may have a very valid point. It's not out of the realm of possibility at all, I'm just saying I wouldn't expect them to be THAT good right out of the gate.
 

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