The Rise of Jimmy Butler

2323 said:

Who'd rather trade Rose so they can sign Butler (assuming Butler continues this)?

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Scoot26 said:

When Rose eventually has his third season ending injury, the Bulls can have an injury settlement with him and get him off the books though.

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clonetrooper264 said:

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Scoot26 said:

:lol:

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clonetrooper264 said:

I wonder how much hate Magic fans gave Grant Hill. Or Blazers fans gave to Oden and Roy.

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clonetrooper264 said:

I wonder how much hate Magic fans gave Grant Hill. Or Blazers fans gave to Oden and Roy.

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RoseMVP1 said:

I don't remember much from the Hill Magic era since I wasn't that old but I'm sure he didn't sit because he was sore. Roy didn't either. People pay big money to watch Rose play only to see him exit a game because he's fatigued or sore. It's bullshit.

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As an unrestricted free agent, Hill had planned to sign with the Orlando Magic. On August 3, 2000, however, a sign and trade deal allowed Hill to receive a slightly more lucrative contract while Detroit received at least some compensation for losing him. The Pistons traded Hill to Orlando for Chucky Atkins and Ben Wallace. The Magic hoped he would team up with budding superstar, Tracy McGrady, who had been signed away from the Toronto Raptors at that time, to return Orlando among the NBA elite. But Hill was hampered by ankle injuries ever since his arrival in Orlando, playing in only four games in his first season with the Magic, 14 games in his second and 29 in his third. He was forced to sit out his entire fourth year with Orlando (2003–04). Meanwhile, the Pistons, who had defeated the Magic in the 2003 Playoffs, but ended up losing to the New Jersey Nets in Eastern Conference Finals, won the championship the following year in 2004.In March 2003, Hill underwent a major surgical procedure in which doctors re-fractured his ankle and realigned it with his leg bone. Five days after the surgery was performed, Hill developed a 104.5 °F (40.3 °C) fever and convulsions, and was rushed to a hospital. Doctors removed the splint around his ankle and discovered that Hill had contracted a potentially fatal methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) infection. He was hospitalized for a week and had to take intravenousantibiotics for six months.

The 2004–05 season saw a return to the “old” Grant Hill, who was so popular earlier in his career. Hill, though hampered by a bruised left shin that caused him to miss several games, started and played 67 games for the Magic, well over the combined amount of games he played for the Magic the previous four seasons. He was named the Eastern Conference player of the week for the week between November 15–21, 2004. Over the season, Hill averaged 19.7 points per game on a .509 field goal percentage. Fans voted him an All-Star starter again, and he led the Eastern Conference All-Star Team to a victory over the West. In addition, at the conclusion of the season, Hill was awarded the Joe Dumars Trophy presented to the NBA Sportsmanship Award Winner.

During the 2005–06 season Hill was once again injured frequently as nagging groin injuries kept him sidelined for much of the first half of the season, limiting him to 21 games. He got a sports hernia that was caused by an uneven pressure on Hill's feet while he was running, due to concerns that he could re-aggravate the injury on his left ankle if it got too much pressure. Hill underwent surgery for the hernia and stated that he would consider retirement if he had to get another surgery.

In the 2006–07 season Hill returned from injuries despite numerous rumors surrounding his retirement. Hill received ankle rotation therapy from specialists in Vancouver, BC during the off-season and stated that he had regained much motion in his left ankle. Hill returned to the Magic lineup, starting at the shooting guardposition. Despite having problems with injuries to his left knee and a tendon in his left ankle, Hill managed to play 65 games, two short of the highest number of games he played over a single season as a member of the Magic. He finished the season with averages of 14.4 points, 3.6 rebounds and 2.1 assists per game. This season would see Hill return to the playoffs for the first time since 2000, his first playoff appearance with the Magic. The 8th seed Magic would meet Hill's old team, the Detroit Pistons, in the first round. The Pistons' vast playoff experience would prevail over the inexperienced Magic, who had not seen significant post-season action for some years, and despite having some close games, the series would end with a 4–0 Pistons sweep, leaving Hill undecided on whether to return for the 2007–08 season with the Magic, sign with another team, or retire

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RoseMVP1 said:

I don't remember much from the Hill Magic era since I wasn't that old but I'm sure he didn't sit because he was sore. Roy didn't either. People pay big money to watch Rose play only to see him exit a game because he's fatigued or sore. It's bullshit.

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clonetrooper264 said:

I wonder how much hate Magic fans gave Grant Hill. Or Blazers fans gave to Oden and Roy.

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RoseMVP1 said:

I don't remember much from the Hill Magic era since I wasn't that old but I'm sure he didn't sit because he was sore. Roy didn't either. People pay big money to watch Rose play only to see him exit a game because he's fatigued or sore. It's bullshit.

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JosMin said:

We all know what the 'G' stands for, but it'll also stand for 'Gets paid' during the upcoming offseason.

Somebody is going to offer him a near-max deal. Bank on it. A team like Philly, a team like the Spurs (yes, you heard it hear first. If Duncan and Ginobili retire, the Spurs could have enough coin to resign Leonard and go after a guy like Butler. He's a total Popovich player. Imagine him, Leonard and Parker....) or a team like the Knicks will make a strong push to acquire. His two-way game has been extremely impressive this year and he's certainly showing himself as potential leader of the franchise. His intangibles, will and work ethic have always been very strong traits, and now he's coupling that with an expanding offensive repertoire.

Please, Bulls front-office. Please don't cheap out. Do whatever it takes to resign him.

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Diddy1122 said:

Bu.. bu.. but he doesn't shoot 40% from 3..

I told everyone that the Bulls offering Jimmy only 4/$40m was a low ball move, especially when you consider that Walker & Burks both got $12m per and are not nearly as good as Butler. The guy was coming off an All-NBA 2nd Team Defense on his rookie contract. That is an extreme rarity in this league. When you consider how hard of a worker he is, and the glimpses you could see of his developing game last year, I had a feeling in my gut that he was going to explode this season. He likely would've signed an extension if the offer was 4/$50m, which would be a total steal now.

I agree 100% that he's going to get a max contract offer. Currently, he is the best 2-way guard in the league. Yes I said it and I'm not backing down from it. The Bulls FO knows this, and knows they made a mistake in low balling him. He made it a point to destroy Gordon Hayward in their match up, just to show everyone that you consider this is a max guy and I AM MUCH BETTER THAN HIM. That chip on his shoulder & swagger in his play is going to carry him onto a great career in this league. I just hope that it continues as a member of the Bulls for the remainder of it.

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