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Our highly touted offense that was supposed to be sooooo great this year went 8-8 last year. All those huge numbers that they put up were mostly garbage time stats..Look at the games we had the huge individual receiving yards...all garbage time. All vanilla defenses keeping the ball in front. Garbage time offense.....look it up, then you won't be so disappointed when you reevaluate this team. Emery tried something different and fucked it up. Now they all will be gone. So what? it was refreshing to try a culture change ...offense first. Shit don't work in Chicago..run the ball and play defense. ..I didn't forget did you?

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because we run the ball so well and are not trying on D?
 

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He changed the formula that has defined Chicago football for the last 50 years. ...we haven't won super bowls but we have always fielded a competitive team. This "thing" that's happening now is not Chicago ball...
 

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Ahh so the formula for keeping Bear fans happy is mediocrity. The Chicago Cubs of the NFL. That explains a lot... Even if this has been a dismal season I am glad the organization had enough sense to realize meatball football is not taking you to the Superbowl.

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Yet the Seahawks won it all last year with that same meatball formula...
 

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Yet the Seahawks won it all last year with that same meatball formula...

They won because they hit home runs in the draft three years in a row, not because they played real bearsh footbaw.

If they played real bearsh footbaw they would have been somewhere between 9-7 and 7-9 or worse and swept by the 49ers.
 
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I'll try something rather try something new winning one superbowl in 50 years and constantly being the Packers door mat.
 

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Seattle won because they played complete football. Excelled in all 3 phases and had tremendous depth. Also add great coaching and no significant injuries

The Bears have been an embarrassment. They've made the playoffs 5 times since 1992. They haven't won an SB in 30 years. By contrast, such football Meccas as St. Louis, Indianapolis and Tampa Bay have won SBs. Even the Cleveland née Baltimore brownravens have won 2

The Bears are not a storied franchise. They are the New York jets.
 

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They won because they hit home runs in the draft three years in a row, not because they played real bearsh footbaw.

If they played real bearsh footbaw they would have been somewhere between 9-7 and 7-9 or worse and swept by the 49ers.

Therein lies the key.

Bears have not had any sustained drafting success since the 1980's.
 

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He changed the formula that has defined Chicago football for the last 50 years. ...we haven't won super bowls but we have always fielded a competitive team. This "thing" that's happening now is not Chicago ball...
Just to refresh your memory, in the Superbowl era, the Bears are under .500, 364 - 369. That's not competitive, that's mediocre.
 

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Yeah, cause the Bear's were a force in the 70s under Abe Gibron
 

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the man has a point

Nobody is saying defense CAN'T win championships, but rather the NFL has moved in a direction to which it's easier to win with offense. Also this whole "Chicago Ball" thing is stupid, we need to get with the times. Nobody would be bitching about "Chicago Ball" if the offense was rolling and the defense was average and we were 8-4. It just all comes out when we lose.

I agree that our as is everything in the NFL, you are never as good or as bad as you think. Our #2 rated offense last year, probably a bit over-rated, but it was obvious last year that our offense took a leap forward that it hadn't taken in decades. Unfortunately it seems that our team is completely un-motivated, and our defense can't stop anyone.
 

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Just to refresh your memory, in the Superbowl era, the Bears are under .500, 364 - 369. That's not competitive, that's mediocre.

Mediocre would be 369-364. Not good, not exactly completely bad. Mediocre.

Having a losing record as a "cornerstone franchise" is not mediocre, it's embarrassing and pathetic.
 

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The point trying to be made is Chicago plays outside in the damn snow. Your teams signature should be smash mouth. Running the ball and trying to decapitate the opposing offense. You can't be "the greatest show on ice" You can't get away from the basics...Emery tried to change the culture...it just didn't work. Get us a defense again no matter what....get some motor graders to block and get a QB who gives a shit....then we will be competitive again
 

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Our highly touted offense that was supposed to be sooooo great this year went 8-8 last year. All those huge numbers that they put up were mostly garbage time stats..Look at the games we had the huge individual receiving yards...all garbage time. All vanilla defenses keeping the ball in front. Garbage time offense.....look it up, then you won't be so disappointed when you reevaluate this team. Emery tried something different and fucked it up. Now they all will be gone. So what? it was refreshing to try a culture change ...offense first. Shit don't work in Chicago..run the ball and play defense. ..I didn't forget did you?

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OK, so where's all the garbage time offense this year?
 

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The point trying to be made is Chicago plays outside in the damn snow. Your teams signature should be smash mouth. Running the ball and trying to decapitate the opposing offense. You can't be "the greatest show on ice" You can't get away from the basics...Emery tried to change the culture...it just didn't work. Get us a defense again no matter what....get some motor graders to block and get a QB who gives a shit....then we will be competitive again

You know, that mentality was both appropriate and successful couple of decades ago but 'decaptitation' football is not only frowned upon in the NFL today, it is actively discouraged. For all the love we have of watching the 1985 Bears and the great Bear defenses of the past the simple reality is that such play isn't tolerated in today's league. Pull up a 'greatest' hits video of the Bears on Youtube, you will find that 75% of those slobbernocking hits are now illegal. Remember when we were ripping our hair out over Brandon Merriweather and his antics when he was a member of the team? He hit like the old time players used to, and he was fined and penalized constantly. We label Suh a dirty player yet he plays much like our team did in the 80s. Half of our team would be under suspension if we tried to go back to 1984.

Seattle plays as well as they do because their players know how to play their positions and aren't constantly out of position to make plays. They tackle, they support each other. They also had the advantage last year of having several marqui players still suffering under rookie contracts. It is going to get much harder over the next few years for Seattle. They already paid for Sherman, Browner and will have to pay big bucks for Wilson. They had to let several guys go over the offseason and their defense has looked weak at times.

The Bears defense isn't lacking for talent. The problems with this team is not based on physical ability. The problems with this team include poor tackling, poor gap control and the inability to read plays and react to what is in front of the player. The ultimate problem is leadership and accountability. Great teams bring players in and the coaches make them great players. What we have here is a group of coaches that can't seem to do that, both on the offensive and defensive side of the ball.

The solution isn't going back to the 80s. Doug Plank and Steve McMichael would either have to adjust the way the play or they would be out of the league in three years. The shit from 30 years ago won't fly today so quit reliving the past. This is a different game.
 

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