Alabama safety Landon Collins All-22 coaches tape vs. LSU 2014

BearsFan51 · Jan 28, 2015

Color me unimpressed. He doesn't have much in the way of coverage responsibilities and he's an average in the box safety. It's only one game but I continue to see a prospect that is not of top-10 value. Maybe some more coaches tape will make it's way online in the next four months so we can get a better look at him, but for now I'd put him behind Pryor. I see some quick feet, a somewhat smooth pedal and transition, but I'm not blown away by his ability. I was honestly expecting to see something affirmed all that I keep hearing about Collins, but didn't see it in this game.

[video]https://youtube.com/watch?v=72ZBT5Tl9yc[/video]

bearmick · Jan 28, 2015

Watched the first 2:30. Nothing special in that short sample size. He's better physically than anyone on the Bears' roster right now but I didn't see anything that said top 10 pick.

botfly10 · Jan 28, 2015

When was the last safety with a top 10 grade?

bearmick · Jan 28, 2015

botfly10 said:
When was the last safety with a top 10 grade?

I dunno, it's rare. Haha and Kenny Vaccaro were borderline iirc. Mark Barron maybe. I'm sure Collins will end up going in the middle of the round like most of the top safeties these days.

Wild_x_Card · Jan 28, 2015

All we need now is Bort to come along and tell us about his world class Olympic speed that he does NOT possess.

Alterego · Jan 28, 2015

botfly10 said:
When was the last safety with a top 10 grade?

Eric Berry?

RisWell · Jan 28, 2015

He looked very impressive to me. Every player gets used in every game or misses assignments. It's just a part of football.

Svic · Jan 28, 2015

Alterego said:
Eric Berry?

Earl Thomas. And even he wasn't drafted in top 10

BearsFan51 · Jan 28, 2015

RisWell said:
He looked very impressive to me. Every player gets used in every game or misses assignments. It's just a part of football.

No one is saying he missed assignments etc. What was noticed was a lack of range no elite speed, no elite athleticism, certainly not size, no man to man coverage skills, no ball hawking skills, hell not even elite downhill run defense skills. I saw an average run defender who is mediocre in coverage, in short, I saw Ryan Mundy.

Jack Lame · Jan 28, 2015

I too agree with the board consensus that Landon Collins is overrated and not worthy of a top 15 pick. What does that likely mean? Collins will go on the be a top 5 safety in the NFL.

RisWell · Jan 29, 2015

Collins has more range and athleticism then most safety that came out before him.

His play by play in the LSU game was good. His reaction to the ball was good, very fluid hips out of the back pedal, his movements following his receiver while he was watching the QB eyes was on point, he was overly aggressive and took bad angles on some plays but that's gonna happen with every player every game. His size and speed shows up on film to me. I have no clue what you guys are watching.

KCbear · Jan 29, 2015

BearsFan51 said:
Color me unimpressed. He doesn't have much in the way of coverage responsibilities and he's an average in the box safety. It's only one game but I continue to see a prospect that is not of top-10 value. Maybe some more coaches tape will make it's way online in the next four months so we can get a better look at him, but for now I'd put him behind Pryor. I see some quick feet, a somewhat smooth pedal and transition, but I'm not blown away by his ability. I was honestly expecting to see something affirmed all that I keep hearing about Collins, but didn't see it in this game.

[video]https://youtube.com/watch?v=72ZBT5Tl9yc[/video]

i agree... he doesn't look like anything special to me...

anyone going in the top 10 should at least look special even to the uninformed couch scout like myself.

JoJoBoxer · Jan 29, 2015

bearmick said:
Watched the first 2:30. Nothing special in that short sample size. He's better physically than anyone on the Bears' roster right now but I didn't see anything that said top 10 pick.

I skipped the first 2:30 but the rest wasn't much better. He is no Mike Brown.

FireFox · Jan 29, 2015

Collins will not and is not a top ten pick in this draft.

satchice · Jan 29, 2015

meh... I would much rather have Cody Prewitt in the second, best safety in the draft!

GBlaze08 · Jan 29, 2015

RisWell said:
Collins has more range and athleticism then most safety that came out before him.

His play by play in the LSU game was good. His reaction to the ball was good, very fluid hips out of the back pedal, his movements following his receiver while he was watching the QB eyes was on point, he was overly aggressive and took bad angles on some plays but that's gonna happen with every player every game. His size and speed shows up on film to me. I have no clue what you guys are watching.

Start your own blog. This one is BF51s. Stop trying to down the local board scout.

P.S. Colliins would be shit at #7

Gustavus Adolphus · Jan 29, 2015

I've asked this before, worth it again I think: Is Landon Collins really a top 7 pick, or is he thought of as a top 7 pick because that is a glaring need of the Bears?

Bort · Jan 29, 2015

Wild_x_Card said:
All we need now is Bort to come along and tell us about his world class Olympic speed that he does NOT possess.

Your opinion doesn't matter. Facts matter. The nice thing about a prospect who was a track star in high school is that we don't have to watch film of him and try to guess how fast he really is.

Landon Collins has been clocked at an actual track meet at 10.28 in the 100 meter dash. This isn't an opinion I've gleaned from watching him play football. This is an actual measurement of him sprinting at an actual event with fully automated timing. And this is world class speed. Period.

westcoast bear fanatic · Jan 29, 2015

Bort said:
Your opinion doesn't matter. Facts matter. The nice thing about a prospect who was a track star in high school is that we don't have to watch film of him and try to guess how fast he really is.

Landon Collins has been clocked at an actual track meet at 10.28 in the 100 meter dash. This isn't an opinion I've gleaned from watching him play football. This is an actual measurement of him sprinting at an actual event with fully automated timing. And this is world class speed. Period.

100 meter dash in shorts on a track surface means jack shit in football, same can be said about the 40 yard dash. The only numbers that really translate are the 10 yard split on a 40 and 3 cone drills. Most that other crap makes guys like you cream their pants over the latest installment of Looks like Tarzan, Plays like Jane coming to a Combine near you.

BearsFan51 · Jan 29, 2015

Bort said:
Your opinion doesn't matter. Facts matter. The nice thing about a prospect who was a track star in high school is that we don't have to watch film of him and try to guess how fast he really is.

Landon Collins has been clocked at an actual track meet at 10.28 in the 100 meter dash. This isn't an opinion I've gleaned from watching him play football. This is an actual measurement of him sprinting at an actual event with fully automated timing. And this is world class speed. Period.

That's great. Was this before or after he added 20-pounds in college followed by the addition of another 20-pounds of football equipment?

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