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don't sleep on the grizz my friend
don't sleep on the grizz my friend
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Btw as of today there are 4 teams that qualify for the championship model in the NBA right now (Top 10 Offensive and Defensive Rating)
Atlanta (6th-O, 7th-D)
Golden State (3rd-O, 1st-D)
Portland (7th-O, 8th-D)
San Antonio (8th-O, 4th-D)
Chicago sits at 10th-O, 14th-D
Cleveland sits at 2nd-O, 21st-D (In a way they are resembling the 2001 Lakers).
Atlanta (6th-O, 7th-D)
Golden State (3rd-O, 1st-D)
Portland (7th-O, 8th-D)
San Antonio (8th-O, 4th-D)
Chicago sits at 10th-O, 14th-D
Cleveland sits at 2nd-O, 21st-D (In a way they are resembling the 2001 Lakers).
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Still don't think they have the offense to do it.
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14th in offensive rating and 2nd in defensive rating. and id be willing to bet the offensive rating has been trending upward post the jeff green trade
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This is my post on 3/3
They've actually fallen in ranks, while amping up the D. Of course there isn't all that much difference between 12 and 14 (0.4 difference). I'd say they haven't really changed at all. The team in the West that's made the best jump in offense is San Antonio from 14th to 8th.
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fair enough, glad I didn't bet lol
green since coming to Memphis has shot 36% from 3, adding a solid 3 shot to the team which they needed...that's why I figured they had trended upward in offense. I still like their chances of coming out of the west a lot. green at 36% to go with lee at 41% and conley at 40% makes for a nice trio of shooting to go with marc gasol and zbo down low for one rotation option
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I mean the model isn't 100%.... Teams have made the Finals plenty of times with average O's and great D's... A few teams have won in such a way (79 Sonics, 94 Rockets).. but its important to see who they matched up against in the playoffs as well.
I haven't looked up the 79 Sonics team, but the 1994 Rockets only played 1 team in the Top 10 in both categories (Utah) and beat them in the WCF 4-1. Its also key to note that before the rule changes to allow zone defenses in the NBA, the dominant centers (or at the very least, their starting C was an All-Star) just about won a title every year sans Jordan's Bulls. And Hakeem dominated that year.
So the Grizzlies at the moment would play Dallas, a team in disarray in the first round, then they'd played Houston or the Spurs. I'm expecting the Spurs to upset Houston at this point... Grizzlies would then be meeting a team that's Top 10 in both, and a team they haven't beat in a series and actually were annihilated by them in 2013. If they were to survive the Spurs, they'd probably play Golden State, another team that's in the Top 10.
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a team they've never beaten? they beat the spurs in 2011
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My bad. I forgot about that 2011 series.. Grizz were an 8th seed too.
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The Bulls also are not likely to break the Top 10 in Defensive Rating this year.. They would need to play some really awesome defense the last few weeks to bump up to #10...
They sit at 105.1 rtg while 10th is Indiana at 103.5.
They can move up in offense though to at least 7th as there isn't much difference between them and Portland right now. Bulls are 107.6 and Portland is 107.9.
They sit at 105.1 rtg while 10th is Indiana at 103.5.
They can move up in offense though to at least 7th as there isn't much difference between them and Portland right now. Bulls are 107.6 and Portland is 107.9.
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There there goes our title hopes :elephant:
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ITS ALL GONE!
Its actually really hard to find a team like ours in NBA history that even made the Finals. However there's 3 teams that do fit in the mold... They are also all the same franchise, they are all the Houston Rockets (1981, 1986, and 1995). All upset heavily favored teams on their way to the Finals.
The 1981 team didn't even win half of their games, were the 6th and final seed of those playoffs, upset the Lakers in a 3 game first round, beat the 2nd seeded Spurs next and then got lucky with Kansas City upsetting the #1 seeded Phoenix Suns in the 2nd round and drew them in the WCF.
The 1986 team was the #2 seed, and went to the Finals by surprising the heavily favored Lakers in the WCF in beating them 4-1.
That 1995 team was a #6 seed, upset the heavily favored Spurs, Jazz AND Magic to win the title. Incredible run really.
Vast majority of Finals teams though if they're outside the Top 10 in one category, they're usually a Top 5 team in another category (and often #1 or #2).
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Stats shhmats. I doubt any of those team started 20 different lineups throughout the season. I am just honestly not scared by any team in the East right now, including the Cavs.
The West is scary as hell. There's so many good teams out there that it will all come down to matchups.
The West is scary as hell. There's so many good teams out there that it will all come down to matchups.
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I believe the Bulls can make the Finals fully healthy... I don't think they can win it though depending on their opponent of course.
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But that's the question, is this team going to be completely healthy in two more weeks?
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According to ESPN, the Knicks cruise past the Bulls. :shrug:
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And props to Thibs for letting his foot off the fucking gas and giving all the starters less than 30 minutes in a blow out.
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It will be interesting what the dynamic will be when Rose returns and how it will all mesh together. Franky it worries me. They really have a great chemistry going now and chemistry is a tricky thing.
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agreed. but at the same time the whole obsession with minutes is pretty silly IMO. these are some of the worlds best athletes, I don't think it makes a ton of a difference if they play 38 or 35 or 32, etc minutes a game. on the current bulls roster id pay attention to noahs minutes because of the knee, and pau because he is an older big man. I mean those bulls teams on the 2nd three peat were older and yet played big time minutes still.....and I don't recall anyone giving phil Jackson shit over it :shrug:
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