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I'd really hope his defense can make a similar jump.
 

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TheStig wrote:
I'd really hope his defense can make a similar jump.

I have no doubts it will. This kid is quietly confident about his game and I think he knows what he needs to work on to become elite. Thibs will have him playing great D in no time. Its all about "want to" on D and this kid has the drive to get it done.
 

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Rose has all the tools in the world to be a good defender. I think Thibodeau will help him out in that aspect. I'll see how this 3pt shot of his is first though. If it's as good as the article says he says it is (since when does Rose brag about stuff anyway?), then offensively, he's unstoppable. Plus we would then have another 3pt threat (making Brewer or Barnes a slightly more reasonable option to go for at the SG).
 

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Lets be realistic here, he's hit 32 threes over two seasons. I'm sure his shot looks as good as he says it does in the gym, but it's a lot different hitting it when you're tired from running up and down the court and you have some guy running at you.

If he can even get to below average (say hitting one a game at 33%) I'd be impressed and hopeful he can become a shooter in the future. But I certainly don't expect him to be a threat next year.
 

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If he has worked on arcing his shot better then I see no reason why he can't be a 40% 3pt shooter as early as next season. Remember when he came into the league & it was "Yea he can beat anyone off the dribble but has no mid-range or long range game". Well he shut those doubters the hell up after week 1. This kid is exactly what you want a budding superstar to be: humble, hard working, driven, dedicated, & with an unlimited potential. Rose will be the best PG in the league by next season's end & I will live by that statement.
 

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If he has worked on arcing his shot better then I see no reason why he can't be a 40% 3pt shooter as early as next season.

How about the reason that there is only one guy I can think of who has made the leap from not being a three point threat at all to elite in one season? As much as I'd like him to pull a Channing Frye, that seems pretty unlikely to me.

Rose will be the best PG in the league by next season's end & I will live by that statement.

I believe he can do that, three point shot or not. I see no reason why he can't be putting up 25 a game on 50%+ shooting, especially if the refs start giving him the benefit of the doubt now he's an all-star and the team is better.
 

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If he has worked on arcing his shot better then I see no reason why he can't be a 40% 3pt shooter as early as next season. Remember when he came into the league & it was "Yea he can beat anyone off the dribble but has no mid-range or long range game". Well he shut those doubters the hell up after week 1. This kid is exactly what you want a budding superstar to be: humble, hard working, driven, dedicated, & with an unlimited potential. Rose will be the best PG in the league by next season's end & I will live by that statement.

Well, there are some damn good point guards in the league. But I think 35% is a bit more attainable. 40% may be a bit too ambitious. Don't get me wrong, if its up to me, he hits 100%. But I don't see him rising that fast that quickly. Especially when we haven't even seen him shoot with this new "arcing" yet.
 

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If he has worked on arcing his shot better then I see no reason why he can't be a 40% 3pt shooter as early as next season.

How about the reason that there is only one guy I can think of who has made the leap from not being a three point threat at all to elite in one season? As much as I'd like him to pull a Channing Frye, that seems pretty unlikely to me.

Woah Shakes, you didn't seriously just suggest that Rose can't do something that Channing Frye did? You sure you aren't running a fever? :woohoo:

Rose is not going to be a volume 3pt shooter which should help his overall percentages. Improving his arc will drastically improve his shooting percentage in general. I can see him getting close to 40%. I wouldn't have said that 2 seasons ago but last year his shot looked alot better & it showed during games. If he worked just as hard this offseason, which I'm certain he did, I think he will be a 3pt threat. Either way he's already unstoppable & this is more icing on the cake.

The true challenge is Deng being able to stretch his range a mere 12" to behind the 3-pt line. If Marion could develop a decent 3pt shot with his hideous form, Deng should be able to as well.
 

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If Deng can indeed take that step back and start hitting some corner threes, and Rose starts getting about 1 a game in on limited attempts, we could have a pretty good balance on offense and more options. Rose drive and kick to Deng in the corner or Korver anywhere or Boozer for a midrange jumper? That's a lot of spacing for him to work with and you'll probably see his assist totals rise. Plus, if Rose has a 3pt shot himself, other teams will need to respect that and play up on him a little more, giving him the opportunity to blow by them. Even if Rose only shoots 33-35% that's enough to have defenders move closer to him instead of playing him like Rondo.
 

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I'm saying Channing Frye is the outlier, for every guy that people have wished would develop a three point shot, he's the only one I can think of that did seemingly overnight.

Also 40% is a really high mark, the majority of guys who shoot that are specialists who just stand around the three point line and shoot open shots. For a guy with Rose's role on the team, 40% would be amazingly good shooting, like hitting 45% or 50% if he was a spot up shooter.

I do think Deng can be a decent three point shooter, the problem with him isn't shooting it's mental. Skiles told him to stop shooting threes (which was fair enough at the time) and he seems to have taken that to heart a bit much. He just needs a coach who will tell him he has to shoot threes, and I think he can hit one a game at a decent percentage.
 

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I do recall that for a decent amount of time, Deng was shooting above 40% from 3 shooting about 1 three a game from the corner. If he just does that every game, I think his confidence will go up and he'll feel more confident shooting 2 or 3 or maybe even 4 a game and hit about half of those on most nights.
 

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