Grasu or Montgomery?

PAPABEAR77 · May 20, 2015

theOHIOSTATE! said:
Interior OL certainly are much of the time....not sure what your talking about.

And he was at the top of the third to boot.

Maybe this is the way people thought in the 1920s, you know when no one held on the Oline and ND was an elite football program and not a basketball and soccer school.

I don't know where your coming from but here on earth in the nfl usually if your are picked in the 1st you are expected to start and if your picked in the 3rd you probably not.especially when your team just sign a center that started on the team you got your head coach and offensive coordinator from. it doesn't take rocket science to figure out they Montgomery is here to help the team transition to the new system and the center is key.I guess if your from osu all your interested is were your next tattoo is going to go and of being jelly over a school osu will never hold a candle to in south bend get over it man your just showing me how you cant leave shit alone you have to start this again ?

The Hawk · May 20, 2015

desperado34 said:
Don't mind creepy will, he's a strange bird.

Can Grasu play Tackle? thats where they need help.

BearFanJohn · May 20, 2015

The best guy is going to start. Montgomery was indeed brought in because he knows the system. That doesn't mean that he is going to start, either. I think as a center in the 3rd he has a very good chance to start. From what I've read and heard he was the close second best center in the draft (which is obviously opinion). Montgomery has the pole position but it is far from a guarantee.

PAPABEAR77 · May 20, 2015

theOHIOSTATE! said:
Interior OL certainly are much of the time....not sure what your talking about.

And he was at the top of the third to boot.

Maybe this is the way people thought in the 1920s, you know when no one held on the Oline and ND was an elite football program and not a basketball and soccer school.

I will make a bet with you . if grasu starts at center week one vs gb I will change my avatar to osu however if Montgomery starts you have to change yours to ND. the change will last for a month. do you agree?

theOHIOSTATE! · May 20, 2015

PAPABEAR77 said:
I will make a bet with you . if grasu starts at center week one vs gb I will change my avatar to osu however if Montgomery starts you have to change yours to ND. the change will last for a month. do you agree?

Uh, no.

Nice try with the "Week 1" insertion, lol.

Now here is a riddle for you:

Name the last time the ELITE **snicker** program in South Bend beat a team that ended the yr ranked in a bowl game?

The Hawk · May 20, 2015

SlickWilly said:
It depends on the position and Grasu was the 2nd ranked center in the draft according to most. He has a very good chance to start.

Centers drafted that high can be expected to start. I agree.

The Hawk · May 20, 2015

theOHIOSTATE! said:
Uh, no.

Nice try with the "Week 1" insertion, lol.

Now here is a riddle for you:

Name the last time the ELITE **snicker** program in South Bend beat a team that ended the yr ranked in a bowl game?

Wowie...........next thing you know, this OSU guy will tell us again how he played "football". What drivel!

The Hawk · May 20, 2015

Grasu was a solid pick. A little strange after signing Montgomery but I agree with it.

The Hawk · May 20, 2015

Maybe something like this will be in the offing? LT Bushrod LG Slauson C MOntgomery RG Grasu RT Long. Put the two Oregon guys together on the line for next season

PAPABEAR77 · May 20, 2015

The Hawk said:
Maybe something like this will be in the offing? LT Bushrod LG Slauson C MOntgomery RG Grasu RT Long. Put the two Oregon guys together on the line for next season

I can see that happening to groom grasu for center

PAPABEAR77 · May 20, 2015

theohiostate! said:
uh, no.

Nice try with the "week 1" insertion, lol.

Now here is a riddle for you:

Name the last time the elite **snicker** program in south bend beat a team that ended the yr ranked in a bowl game?

LSU...... no wait your going to say LSU isn't elite right? :facepalm2:

theOHIOSTATE! · May 20, 2015

PAPABEAR77 said:
LSU...... no wait your going to say LSU isn't elite right? :facepalm2:

No, I am going to say they ended the season unranked.

That's just strike one, try again , don't give up so easily!

BTW, LSU is an elite program, but hardly was an elite team last yr with its 5 losses and failure to even muster a winning record in conference play.

ijustposthere · May 20, 2015

Broc said:
Shocker, despbro with yet another drive by posting that contributes nothing to the discussion....:smh:

Anyways... if Grasu isn't the starter I'd be shocked. Thankfully Garza set the bar pretty low for him so it should be relatively easy for him to make a good impression.

But there's no one with the team that coached Garza anymore.

PAPABEAR77 · May 20, 2015

theOHIOSTATE! said:
No, I am going to say they ended the season unranked.

That's just strike one, try again , don't give up so easily!

BTW, LSU is an elite program, but hardly was an elite team last yr with its 5 losses and failure to even muster a winning record in conference play.

well you have a misconception on the word elite, it seems to me you think elite means what have you done for me lately witch can be further from the truth cause its not just wins and loses that make a elite program or if you haven't won a title in a couple decades that nd isn't elite.that is total horse shit and from the time of the bowl game and till now LSU is basically the same team without their seniors they haven't played a game and they are ranked ......now here is your sign

theOHIOSTATE! · May 20, 2015

PAPABEAR77 said:
well you have a misconception on the word elite, it seems to me you think elite means what have you done for me lately witch can be further from the truth cause its not just wins and loses that make a elite program or if you haven't won a title in a couple decades that nd isn't elite.that is total horse shit and from the time of the bowl game and till now LSU is basically the same team without their seniors they haven't played a game and they are ranked ......now here is your sign

Was LSU ranked at the end of last season?

Y or N?

I repeat the question:

When was the last time that "ELITE" program Not our Shame actually won a bowl game against a team that ended the season ranked?

This isn't a trick question...they've done it before. Go ahead and answer....

Also, I never said the sole reason ND isn't elite has to do with not winning titles, but it's sure a contributing factor. Let's start with naming 1 solitary bowl victory against a end of yr ranked team. Go ahead....

burgerrider · May 20, 2015

Are we talking about the opening day starter? Or the eventual starter?

There is no logical reason to think that a third round rookie would be the opening day starting center over an established veteran that knows the system.

Kreutz couldn't do it.

Fontenot couldn't do it.

What makes Grasu so much better than either one of them?

Can anyone name anyone who has done this?

PAPABEAR77 · May 20, 2015

theOHIOSTATE! said:
Was LSU ranked at the end of last season?

Y or N?

I repeat the question:

When was the last time that "ELITE" program Not our Shame actually won a bowl game against a team that ended the season ranked?

This isn't a trick question...they've done it before. Go ahead and answer....

Also, I never said the sole reason ND isn't elite has to do with not winning titles, but it's sure a contributing factor. Let's start with naming 1 solitary bowl victory against a end of yr ranked team. Go ahead....

idk but they are now it don't matter to me they are the same team I know exactly were you getting at and it has no merit cause you only think elite means win and loses for that year obvious you have no conception on what the word means in college football you think its what you think it is and that's sad cause you are so narrow minded you must have not been alive when ND won it in 88

theOHIOSTATE! · May 20, 2015

burgerrider said:
Are we talking about the opening day starter? Or the eventual starter?

There is no logical reason to think that a third round rookie would be the opening day starting center over an established veteran that knows the system.

Kreutz couldn't do it.

Fontenot couldn't do it.

What makes Grasu so much better than either one of them?

Can anyone name anyone who has done this?

What?

This monkey logic only works if you assume the situation on the OL is he exact same in 2015 as it was over a decade or 3 decades ago....what happened 3 decades ago with Fontenot has little to no bearing on what happens today.....

I have no idea who will be the opening day starter and don't think the coaching staff knows either, but to say bc an interior OL is a top of the 3rd round pick and therefore shouldn't be expected to start is redonkulously bad thinking. Interior OLman picked that high should be battling for a starting spot at some point soon if they practice to expectation usually.

Jesus, this board scares me sometimes.

p.s.

I was alive and in early elementary school I think. I remember Rahib Ismail sort of, and some decent teams like 94'.

Unfortunately that was over 2 decades ago, and you don't just stay elite by possessing a bunch of titles from bygone eras. iF you did Minny would be elite.

Why are you avoiding the question?

truthbedamned · May 20, 2015

Jesus Christ......Does every thread have to turn into a Notre Dame vs Ohio State thread? Give it a fucking rest. Tell all of us what the hell ND or Ohio State has to do with our starting center.

Rant over

burgerrider · May 20, 2015

theOHIOSTATE! said:
What?

This monkey logic only works if you assume the situation on the OL is he exact same in 2015 as it was over a decade or 3 decades ago....what happened 3 decades ago with Fontenot has little to no bearing on what happens today.....

I have no idea who will be the opening day starter and don't think the coaching staff knows either, but to say bc an interior OL is a top of the 3rd round pick and therefore shouldn't be expected to start is redonkulously bad thinking. (actually, that's not what I said, but feel free to change my words to fit your narrative anytime you find the desperate need to)Interior OLman picked that high should be battling for a starting spot at some point soon if they practice to expectation usually.

Jesus, this board scares me sometimes.

Well then you should easily be able to back up your point by telling us all about the last time this happened.

Go ahead, give us all the examples of when a C was drafted in the 3rd round or later (in any year, because we all know that history is never relevant), and became the opening day starter over an established veteran that knows the system.

With the drum your arrogance is beating so loudly, you should be able to roll off a couple dozen of them off the top of your head, right?

Sorry for the "monkey logic", I'll just be sitting here eating bananas waiting for your long list in reply.

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