How would this team be different if the Bears never extended Cutler?

Don't Care · Jul 3, 2015

If we went with McCown instead of Cutler, what would really be different? The McCaskeys would have saved a bunch of money, sure. Would the Bears really have been able to do anything with the cap space they saved to make moves to make this team better? I guess they would have been able to keep Urlacher one more year, and Peppers instead of Allen. Can anyone think of any other differences? I think the overall W/L record would be about the same. The games would be equally unbearable to watch.

Bearly · Jul 3, 2015

Don't Care said:
Can anyone think of any other differences?

I wouldn't have read this?

Milky · Jul 3, 2015

Keeping Lach had nothing to do with Cutlers contract. Maybe we would've been able to pursue Suh? Revis? Could've kept BMarsh maybe? Trying to think of some of the other big ticket FAs...

I agree in principle though that our W/L record would be similar. Trestman was horrible and Tucker/JoeD were even worse.

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Kazu2324 · Jul 3, 2015

A lot less bitching about Cutler on these boards and a lot more bitching about everything else team related most likely. Either way, we get an average to below average player at the QB position.

BearsFan51 · Jul 3, 2015

Teddy Bridgewater or Derek Carr would be the starting QB.

Warrior Spirit · Jul 3, 2015

A little less whiny. A little less excuse driven. A lot less doom impending.

Raskolnikov · Jul 3, 2015

Derek Carr would be a win. I wanted to draft him.

Also, McCown earned that playoff run, he was hot and we don't know how far we may have gotten if we rode the hot hand

gwharris2254 · Jul 3, 2015

One thing everybody seems to forget is ... at Least we wouldnt have Cutler.
We would be one year, maybe two farther down the road to a QB we can rely on

iueyedoc · Jul 3, 2015

Spartan said:
A little less whiny. A little less excuse driven. A lot less doom impending.

He didn't ask how you would be different, but rather, how the team would be different.

iueyedoc · Jul 3, 2015

gwharris2254 said:
One thing everybody seems to forget is ... at Least we wouldnt have Cutler.
We would be one year, maybe two farther down the road to a QB we can rely on

I know right, cuz the Bears are very good at picking QB's they can rely on.

BearFanJohn · Jul 3, 2015

It would not be McCown at QB. He isn't a starter. I don't know of a coach that would have held him more than a year. Urlacher has nothing to do with Cutler. If you notice, no other team picked him up for the money he wants. So, that might mean he was done. If he would have signed for the right money and been a situational player, maybe, if you insist.

Well, given the fact that Emery/Trestman was a dumpster fire/shit storm, I don't know why anyone thinks that those chuckle-fucks could have drafted anyone better than Cutler. Carr would have been great.

Cutler didn't have anything to do with a bad HC, bad GM, bad DC and an aging defense. Cutler was not the answer but he wasn't the (only) problem, either.

bearmick · Jul 3, 2015

gwharris2254 said:
One thing everybody seems to forget is ... at Least we wouldnt have Cutler.
We would be one year, maybe two farther down the road to a QB we can rely on

The attention would have been focused on drafting a QB, which is where it should have been.

It's astounding how much Phil emery screwed the Bears with that contract. Easily the worst contract in franchise history.

BearFanJohn · Jul 3, 2015

I think you may be right. Very well could be the worst contract in franchise history. I would hate to think it was given the many Bear GM fuck ups but I can't think of any.

BringBackDitka54 · Jul 3, 2015

0-16 every year.

benplace · Jul 3, 2015

We would be arguing about whether this years Superbowl team was better than 85 and people would be eating at Trestmans steakhouse downtown...

iueyedoc · Jul 3, 2015

BearFanJohn said:
I think you may be right. Very well could be the worst contract in franchise history. I would hate to think it was given the many Bear GM fuck ups but I can't think of any.

The massive #'s/years make it look bad, but the reality is it is a 3 year contract that is currently 9th (soon to be 10th with R Wilson) highest paid QB. Certainly overpaid and under performing, but not as insane as the press want to make it seem. As a homer, I still feel the contract could end up being fair to good for the Bears. If Cutler could raise his game to just top 8-10 his performance would be in line with his pay, so not like he has to be elite, just good.

Hell, I don't even think it was Emery's worst contract. The J Allen contract is fucking awful. He makes the 5th highest salary of d lineman this year( 3rd if you call him a 3-4 LB) and at best he will be a passing down specialist at a position he has never played before.

Army80 · Jul 3, 2015

The truth of the matter is Emery's crew was all in on Cutler. At a minimum they would have franchised him for at least one yr, so the 2014 season likely would have been the same. Then you get to 2015 off-season in a QB search in the worst possible year to need one. While the Cutler contract is onerous, the real problems plaguing the QB position is the instability in coaching and lack of Front Office leadership. Lovie's selection of "clown car" OCs didn't help, and when he finally selected a decent one in Martz, he allowed that to blow-up. Emery didn't hire the best coach for the job (Arians), but selected the most unprepared candidate to lead a team of the lot. Fox has a chance to salvage a bad QB contract with solid defense (Fangio) and disciplined offense (Fox/Gase). If Fox can have us in the playoff hunt in 2015 and solid contenders in 2016 and 2017 with solid QB play, exceptional run game, and awesome defense everything would be just fine.

Monsieur Tirets · Jul 3, 2015

less turn overs?

Noonthirtyjoe · Jul 3, 2015

Tdog/Tucker/Emily would still be here without Cutlers contract. Ya think about that for a while. Now Tucker might not have been but the other two would have got a pass using the no QB excuse to give them more time. No Fox, No Fangio. Cutlers contract sped the firings up. Ya different point of view now?

Monsieur Tirets · Jul 3, 2015

I wouldnt have minded getting to see Trestman with his own QB under center and a competent DC. unfortunately he had a pos for a gm that fucked them all.

How would this team be different if the Bears never extended Cutler?

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