Bears believe they can replace Forte with this

The Hawk · May 28, 2016

Spunky Porkstacker said:
I've read your opinions and I can't argue. All I can say in dispute is the team lacks so much talent across the board, Pace thought it better to take a positional player, Floyd seems to be as much of a risk as taking Lynch would have been at #11. It seems apparent that Pace feels a better QB option will come along than the ones he has passed on.

I think that the Broncos taking Lynch was a great move. Not sure that Lynch would fit into Fox's idea for an offense, but Lynch sure will fit the Broncos idea. FLoyd is more of a risk of flopping than Lynch is because I think that they will almost have to style their defense around his abilities or disabilities as a player.

KittiesKorner · May 28, 2016

They have to style their defense around an outside linebacker?

-- tapatalkin'!

The Hawk · May 28, 2016

tardigrade said:
They have to style their defense around an outside linebacker?

-- tapatalkin'!

Pretty much. I think Fangio will make Floyd the star of his defense.

Dragon Slayer · May 28, 2016

The Hawk said:
I think that the Broncos taking Lynch was a great move. Not sure that Lynch would fit into Fox's idea for an offense, but Lynch sure will fit the Broncos idea. FLoyd is more of a risk of flopping than Lynch is because I think that they will almost have to style their defense around his abilities or disabilities as a player.

Lol what? The broncos won't have to style their offense around Lynch's capabilities? Dumbest thing I've ever read on here.

The Hawk · May 29, 2016

Quote Originally Posted by The Hawk View Post

I think that the Broncos taking Lynch was a great move. Not sure that Lynch would fit into Fox's idea for an offense, but Lynch sure will fit the Broncos idea. FLoyd is more of a risk of flopping than Lynch is because I think that they will almost have to style their defense around his abilities or disabilities as a player.

HawkBear said:
Lol what? The broncos won't have to style their offense around Lynch's capabilities? Dumbest thing I've ever read on here.

Then you haven't read much on this site. I think Lynch is a sure thing with the Broncos. I don't think that Floyd is a sure thing unless Fangio gets really creative.

bearmick · May 29, 2016

The Hawk said:
I think Lynch is a sure thing with the Broncos.

He was who I wanted in the first round this year. If he turns out to be really good I'm going to be pissed.

BearDen · May 29, 2016

HawkBear said:
Lol what? The broncos won't have to style their offense around Lynch's capabilities? Dumbest thing I've ever read on here.

The Hawk said:
Quote Originally Posted by The Hawk View Post

I think that the Broncos taking Lynch was a great move. Not sure that Lynch would fit into Fox's idea for an offense, but Lynch sure will fit the Broncos idea. FLoyd is more of a risk of flopping than Lynch is because I think that they will almost have to style their defense around his abilities or disabilities as a player.

Then you haven't read much on this site. I think Lynch is a sure thing with the Broncos. I don't think that Floyd is a sure thing unless Fangio gets really creative.

I like when Hawk one-ups himself.

Spunky Porkstacker · May 29, 2016

I will miss these types of moves.

The Hawk · May 30, 2016

BearDen said:
I like when Hawk one-ups himself.

You don't think that Lynch will be a good quarterback for the Broncos? I'd say he'll be better immediately than Manning and Oswieler were last year. The kid has a good arm and good mobility and they will carve out a play set for him that will fit his ability. Elway and Kubiak know a bit about quarterbacking.

THe real question is how Floyd is going to be used for the Bears. Fangio has a good mind for putting people into spots to make plays and like I have said before, he will try to move Floyd around where he will be able to use his speed. THe problem can be if he gets mauled by bigger stronger offensive guys. He is pretty skinny. This is going to really be kind of a lab experiment this coming year.

Mitchapalooza · May 30, 2016

The Hawk said:
You don't think that Lynch will be a good quarterback for the Broncos? I'd say he'll be better immediately than Manning and Oswieler were last year. The kid has a good arm and good mobility and they will carve out a play set for him that will fit his ability. Elway and Kubiak know a bit about quarterbacking.

THe real question is how Floyd is going to be used for the Bears. Fangio has a good mind for putting people into spots to make plays and like I have said before, he will try to move Floyd around where he will be able to use his speed. THe problem can be if he gets mauled by bigger stronger offensive guys. He is pretty skinny. This is going to really be kind of a lab experiment this coming year.

What's his madden rating though?

ZenBear34 · May 30, 2016

Spunky Porkstacker said:
I will miss these types of moves.

It's been a while since he could do things like that.

BearDen · May 30, 2016

Spunky Porkstacker said:
I will miss these types of moves.

I've missed those types of moves for a few seasons now.

BearDen · May 30, 2016

The Hawk said:
You don't think that Lynch will be a good quarterback for the Broncos? I'd say he'll be better immediately than Manning and Oswieler were last year. The kid has a good arm and good mobility and they will carve out a play set for him that will fit his ability. Elway and Kubiak know a bit about quarterbacking.

THe real question is how Floyd is going to be used for the Bears. Fangio has a good mind for putting people into spots to make plays and like I have said before, he will try to move Floyd around where he will be able to use his speed. THe problem can be if he gets mauled by bigger stronger offensive guys. He is pretty skinny. This is going to really be kind of a lab experiment this coming year.

I think he'll be good, and was actually hoping the Bears would draft him, but to call a late 1st round rookie QB a "sure thing" is asinine.

Dragon Slayer · May 31, 2016

anonman said:
Forte was never even close to an elite running back , in any year. All around good back and solid at all the little things , that's it. I remember when A.P. came in and remember watching them games against Minnesota and going wow! Wish we had a back like that. So yes Langford will out play Forte this year. And Lynch will be a bust and Floyd will be great

Forte has been elite for the literally the majority of his career. What are you talking about? Most NFL teams would have killed to have a guy like Forte in his prime on their team.

Spunky Porkstacker · May 31, 2016

HawkBear said:
Forte has been elite for the literally the majority of his career. What are you talking about? Most NFL teams would have killed to have a guy like Forte in his prime on their team.

I agree, but if anonman is saying an elite back is a HOF RB then I suppose he's right. Forte is in the next tier though of "that guy" who's damn good but not HOF. His individual offensive production was crazy good and without me looking at stats (at work on phone) probably was at least top 3 in the league for multiple seasons.

The Hawk · May 31, 2016

anonman said:
Forte was never even close to an elite running back , in any year. All around good back and solid at all the little things , that's it. I remember when A.P. came in and remember watching them games against Minnesota and going wow! Wish we had a back like that. So yes Langford will out play Forte this year. And Lynch will be a bust and Floyd will be great

Forte was/is an elite back. Total yardage tells the story. Forte is right there with AP. As for Langford out playing Forte, Langford might not see the field as their feature back rather as part of a three helmeted assembly that tries to put together the same production as the elite guy they gave up, Forte.

As for Lynch being a bust, I'd say that John Elway and Kubiak know a bit more about quarterback play than any here do and Lynch is just the kind of QB who will be successful. Floyd might be great and I hope that Fangio will figure out how to make him a force, but he is no sure thing and could flop.

The Hawk · May 31, 2016

Spunky Porkstacker said:
I agree, but if anonman is saying an elite back is a HOF RB then I suppose he's right. Forte is in the next tier though of "that guy" who's damn good but not HOF. His individual offensive production was crazy good and without me looking at stats (at work on phone) probably was at least top 3 in the league for multiple seasons.

In the next three years, if Forte can keep up with his average production since he has been in the league, he just might make the HOF because he will have the numbers for it. Not first ballot but he will have a decent chance at it.

mecha · May 31, 2016

The Hawk said:
In the next three years, if Forte can keep up with his average production since he has been in the league, he just might make the HOF because he will have the numbers for it. Not first ballot but he will have a decent chance at it.

his longevity alone in that scenario would be psychotic. not even Payton or Faulk pulled that off. or LT

jbd · Jun 1, 2016

bears26 said:
Ban this guy

airtime143 · Jun 2, 2016

mecha said:
his longevity alone in that scenario would be psychotic. not even Payton or Faulk pulled that off. or LT

Payton put up over 2k per year from scrimmage in years 9-11. He was at 1590 in years 1-8.
Payton didnt start for some of his rookie season and he missed games in the strike season, but on a per game basis, he was 111 yards per game total in years 1-8, 128 yards per game in years 9-11.

Forte could last that long... but he will likely be involved in a multi back rotation the rest of his career. I think he gets over 10k+ rushing and 15k + total yards and winds up in the hall a few years after eligibility. Peterson goes first, Gore second, and Jackson/forte have to duke it out.

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