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This Gold for Brazil will trump all other losses.
 

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It's amazing to think that Brazil and a Unified Germany had never won Olympic gold until today. East Germany won in 1976.
 

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Wow, Germany lose on penalties. Save on Germany's final shot. Then Neymer steps up and wins it for Brazil. Did what he had to do to carry his country to their first Olympic gold. Kudos.

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Great run in the 1500 by Centrowitz
 

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Mo Farah went beast mode at the end there in the 5000m. Dude running around the stadium like he just didn't finish running 5km.
 

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USA with 4×400m victory. Jamaica 2nd and my boys from the Bahamas get the bronze.
 

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Remarkable showing by Japan here. Shattering the myth about sprinters.

What myth?


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Bring back the Midget Toss I say.
 

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Seems to be more fact than myth.

Except they just finished 2nd in 4x100m race. Prior to Bolt, the prevailing theory argued that in the 100m, short and stockier runners were at an advantage due to their being able to be more explosive out of the blocks. Then Bolt came along and shit all over the theory and then the theory changed and focused on his long legs giving him the advantage due to longer strides. So clearly whatever science allegedly supported shorter runners didn't stop Bolt from becoming the greatest sprinter ever.

The essence of sport and competition is overcoming the odds whether they are based allegedly in nature or nurture. It's a myth to suggest certain people can't compete due solely on their race as if science is the end all be all in terms of competition.
 

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Shorter runners are still at an advantage out of the blocks and West Africans are still the fastest sprinters on the planet. Not sure what myth was shattered.
 

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And yet Bolt has shown that advantage can be obliterated and pretty sure Japan beat other teams filled with West Africans. The myth that Asians couldn't compete in sprints was shattered. You yourself expressed surprise earlier in this thread about Japan's success so not sure what your point is now.

Further, Japan were ahead going into the final leg. That Japan team essentially beat all the other West Africans on the track except for the greatest sprinter of all time. They competed in an event that not many people including you judging by your earlier comments thought they could and would have captured gold if not for one singular and all time great.

In men's, China set an Asian record in the 1st heat, only to have it broken by the Japanese in the 2nd lol. Interesting that the two have been slowly coming along the last few years in relays and regularly beats European countries that used to have an edge on them. I've guess they've mastered the art of the baton exchange.

Not that this is the best indicator, but in the Under 20 world championships a few weeks ago, USA had to catch Japan on the last leg to win.

https://youtu.be/RkwwN1WHF5w?t=4m39s

And here above, you note that in the Under 20 championships they basically had the whole field beat again until the last leg. So again not sure your point now.
 

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An advantage being "obliterated" doesn't mean it never existed. Just because Usain Bolt is able to catch people in the last half of the race, doesn't mean they all of a sudden didn't have the advantage in the first.

Unless it's changed in the last few months, only one Asian man has broke the 10 second barrier for the 100, barely squeezing in with 9.99. He would've got 7th in this year's finals. The fastest Asian man ever. Can they compete in a relay though? Sure, it's a more technical event. Ironically just cementing another "myth", that East Asians are the smartest on the planet.
 

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An advantage being "obliterated" doesn't mean it never existed. Just because Usain Bolt is able to catch people in the last half of the race, doesn't mean they all of a sudden didn't have the advantage in the first.

Unless it's changed in the last few months, only one Asian man has broke the 10 second barrier for the 100, barely squeezing in with 9.99. He would've got 7th in this year's finals. The fastest Asian man ever. Can they compete in a relay though? Sure, it's a more technical event. Ironically just cementing another "myth", that East Asians are the smartest on the planet.

Who claimed an advantage never existed? I specifically said advantages whether they be nature or nurture can be overcome. If the advantage didn't exist then it couldn't be overcome so not sure what point you are arguing.

Was there this idea that Asians couldn't compete in the 4x100m relay because of perceived genetic disadvantages? The clear answer as seen even in your post is yes? Are they competing in the 4x100m relays in the Olympics and Under 20s that you linked? The answer is yes.

That is the only myth I was referring to. I never said anything about the individual 100m race. We were talking about the relays.
 

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Was there this idea that Asians couldn't compete in the 4x100m relay because of perceived genetic disadvantages?

If there was, was it not "shattered" prior to last night? The clear answer as seen in my post is yes.

Also, I find it relevant that the anchor for Japan was not only half West African, but half Jamaican specifically.
 

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