Blackhawks, Oilers have discussed Nail Yakupov trade, per reports

MassHavoc · Oct 6, 2016

I'm not usually one for reports like this but it's slow so discuss.

http://www.secondcityhockey.com/201...umors-chicago-blackhawks-edmonton-oilers-2016

mikita's helmet · Oct 6, 2016

I'd trade him for McNeil, but what's his cap hit?

ClydeLee · Oct 6, 2016

I think about 3 fiddy

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Bigfoot · Oct 6, 2016

mikita's helmet said:
I'd trade him for McNeil, but what's his cap hit?

2.5 million

Spunky Porkstacker · Oct 6, 2016

John Jaeckel‏@jaeckel

Source, "deal getting close, but NOT DONE, other teams can emerge until it goes to the league." One Hawk player involved "may surprise"

TVR is rumored to be the player traded for "I play very little defense" Yapukov.

Raskolnikov · Oct 6, 2016

I would love to see this. Now is a great time to trade TVR/McNeil and get something. How many goals does he have to score this year to be considered a success?

25?

MassHavoc · Oct 7, 2016

Spunky Porkstacker said:
John Jaeckel‏@jaeckel

Source, "deal getting close, but NOT DONE, other teams can emerge until it goes to the league." One Hawk player involved "may surprise"

TVR is rumored to be the player traded for "I play very little defense" Yapukov.

Hahahaha Jaeckel you say.... then this is definitely an e32

LordKOTL · Oct 7, 2016

I've heard rumblings of this, too--up to and including McNeil & Pokka for The Yak with salary retained--or some permutation thereof.

Don't know if there's anything to it, but depending on the pieces this could be very low risk with high award potential.

Besdies, it's not as if our netminding duo can't do well with bad defense in front of them...

roshinaya · Oct 7, 2016

Yak might work out, or he might not. Hard to tell, when he's been playing for a tire-fire of an organization in Edmonton.

DMelt36 · Oct 7, 2016

There's definitely talent there with Yakupov, but I'm really worried about the knocks on his D game. That's the fastest way into Q's doghouse, and I don't see how Yak would be able to thrive here when he's busy getting benched by Q.

LordKOTL · Oct 7, 2016

DMelt36 said:
There's definitely talent there with Yakupov, but I'm really worried about the knocks on his D game. That's the fastest way into Q's doghouse, and I don't see how Yak would be able to thrive here when he's busy getting benched by Q.

If that was the case Seabrook would have been riding the pine all year and Kane would not get much ice time.

I see Yak, depending on the move, a low-risk situation. He won't cripple the cap even without RSA and does add a potential scoring touch when people have been blithering about the scoring depth.

And again, it's not like Crawford can't put up a Vezina-caliber season behind the worst D the 'hawks have iced since 1989.

DMelt36 · Oct 7, 2016

LordKOTL said:
If that was the case Seabrook would have been riding the pine all year and Kane would not get much ice time.

I see Yak, depending on the move, a low-risk situation. He won't cripple the cap even without RSA and does add a potential scoring touch when people have been blithering about the scoring depth.

And again, it's not like Crawford can't put up a Vezina-caliber season behind the worst D the 'hawks have iced since 1989.

Seabrook has a much longer rep with Q, though. I think we've all seen what happens when new, younger players get lost in the defensive aspects of the game. Cough Morin cough Pirri cough

Spunky Porkstacker · Oct 7, 2016

LordKOTL said:
If that was the case Seabrook would have been riding the pine all year and Kane would not get much ice time.

I see Yak, depending on the move, a low-risk situation. He won't cripple the cap even without RSA and does add a potential scoring touch when people have been blithering about the scoring depth.

And again, it's not like Crawford can't put up a Vezina-caliber season behind the worst D the 'hawks have iced since 1989.

Soooo...just curious how you are feeling about the team scoring depth? Those 3rd and 4th lines gonna light it up this season?

LordKOTL · Oct 7, 2016

DMelt36 said:
Seabrook has a much longer rep with Q, though. I think we've all seen what happens when new, younger players get lost in the defensive aspects of the game. Cough Morin cough Pirri cough

True, but still, not being competant at D isn't a 100% killer.

See also. Rosival. 2014. Verpass, 2014

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LordKOTL · Oct 7, 2016

Spunky Porkstacker said:
Soooo...just curious how you are feeling about the team scoring depth? Those 3rd and 4th lines gonna light it up this season?

For one, Toews needs to earn his 10.5M

For 2, our D needs to earn their paycheque.

Even if the bottom lines are as offensively competant as 2011 and 2012, if they at least play D and open up the game for the top 2 lines we can still win games with Panarin, Kane, & Crawford doing the heavy lifting.

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Spunky Porkstacker · Oct 7, 2016

LordKOTL said:
For one, Toews needs to earn his 10.5M

For 2, our D needs to earn their paycheque.

Even if the bottom lines are as offensively competant as 2011 and 2012, if they at least play D and open up the game for the top 2 lines we can still win games with Panarin, Kane, & Crawford doing the heavy lifting.

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Looking for JT to have a BIG year. If he does he should also propel his linemates into more goals scored. Right now who will be on his wings, Panik and Motte/Shmaltz maybe Fortin... will they give him a 10 game tryout and send him down if he doesn't work out?

Diehardfan · Oct 7, 2016

DMelt36 said:
There's definitely talent there with Yakupov, but I'm really worried about the knocks on his D game. That's the fastest way into Q's doghouse, and I don't see how Yak would be able to thrive here when he's busy getting benched by Q.

I don't believe for a second that they pull off a deal of this sort without including Q in the thought process....and I'm sure Q knows the kind of player this guy is. It would be silly for Q to ok this deal and drop the kid like a bag of dirt for defensive lapses. If the deal goes down, it's with Q's blessings.

HawkWriter · Oct 7, 2016

http://www.tsn.ca/oilers-trade-yakupov-to-blues-for-pick-prospect-1.581818

Yakupov traded to the Blues.

Spunky Porkstacker · Oct 7, 2016

Diehardfan said:
I don't believe for a second that they pull off a deal of this sort without including Q in the thought process....and I'm sure Q knows the kind of player this guy is. It would be silly for Q to ok this deal and drop the kid like a bag of dirt for defensive lapses. If the deal goes down, it's with Q's blessings.

Even though Yakupov went to the Blues Stan has brought in other players over the years that Q may have said ya sure but he never ended up playing them much. Last season Fleishman and Weise from Montreal. Wiese has made a couple comments now that he's gone how it was perplexing to him how Q barely gave him any playtime.

ClydeLee · Oct 7, 2016

They aren't retaining are they? Doesn't say in that deal with the Blues and based on the Blues off season they had cap to take it all.

Especially since they were trying to get back Sabokov from the khl. But he seems to not be able to get out of his contract there

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