Report: John Fox told friends he's "done" with Jay Cutler

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I really hope that many in this thread are under 30 years of age. I remember when I had that "sports anger". Everyone needs to understand that in most offices, most people get along and are friends. The relationship between Fox and Cutler is likely no different.

Nobody is rarely "done" with anybody, absent off the field issues. Fox had Cutler as the starter and failed to draft a replacement last season, that shows confidence in him. I don't think anyone on here predicted that Hoyer would have a 98 passer rating right now. Hoyer played his way into the position and that is all that happened. And the fact that a backup has out performed a 16 million dollar a year player is enough for the coach to know he can keep Hoyer next year and spend that money elsewhere to improve the team.

This situation is far less insidious than many here have imagined.
 

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Or maybe there really isn't any truth to it......we sure as hell don't know.

It's probably more believable than any back-handed support that Fox has given Cutler.
 

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Most of us are done with Pace as well.

But some will continue to contend he walks on water and will do so until he's fired...

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Pace has made enough picks that are hits that fit a pattern of player, with overlap that included his misses to an extent, that I am interested enough to watch him develop, and largely I am blaming the disappointing coaching job of Fox right now, as well as lack of QB play.
 

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Every time Cutler refers to him as Foxy in a presser, Fox should return the favour and call him Jake again.
 

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Or maybe there really isn't any truth to it......we sure as hell don't know.

Sure. I thought since 2011 that it was crazy to neglect the position, and absolutely insane to go into the last four seasons with him as the unchallenged starter, so I realize there's a possibility the insanity could continue. Everything from Fox's previous statements to Cutler's contract, however, suggest that him being let go is far more likely now than it has been in the past.

And I do think this last report is very probably true, as it's completely consistent with the above.
 
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Pace has made enough picks that are hits that fit a pattern of player, with overlap that included his misses to an extent, that I am interested enough to watch him develop, and largely I am blaming the disappointing coaching job of Fox right now, as well as lack of QB play.

Agreed. We're starting to see some of Pace's players come through, and if the rumors are true and Fox does have a large authority in Halas Hall, he could be being a pain in the ass and calling the shots on those first round picks.

That said, I don't see Fox being fired this year. I think the best we got is for Loggains to be kicked to the curb along with Jay. I do think Jeffrey is gone as well.
 

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what rumors about fox having a lot of draft authority?
 

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This report is really going to boost morale around Halas Hall.
 

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Some asshole always has to come out of the woodwork with this bullshit. Don't be fucking stupid. I am not rooting for injuries, I am posting on a message board.

If I was going to root for injuries I would root for your vagina to get injured, but I see it's already too late.

I would think that you would be capable of understanding the fact that I would not root for Jay to actually get his knee ripped off (Is that even possible.) Just like I would also not root for the bears to intentionally tank for draft status. I overestimated CCS as it took less than a half an hour to get some stupid response.

Next time I will just put it in green so you won't get all whiny about it.

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This is good.
Cutler will now be highly motivated to play well putting forth maximum effort to win, trying to make himself look good.
Translation being he will hold the ball too long, stare down receivers and force throws.
Here comes the turnover train!
 

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I remember being so excited when they traded for Cutler, and then making excuses for him for first couple of years hoping that he would develop into a franchise QB, but what a failure he's been considering the price both in picks and compensation.

I honestly feel like we are close to the organizational level of the Browns recently. Or, perhaps even more painful is my friends who are Lions fans can identify with my frustration and disappointment.
Can't fault anyone for getting excited about the trade. Two firsts for an all-pro QB who just had a falling out with his new head coach? Anyone would make that trade.

No, what was bad was signing Cutler to that long term deal after being outplayed by McCown. Didn't make sense then doesn't make sense now.
 

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Here is the Trib article:

Jay Cutler's seeming swan song with Bears more like audition for others

Mike Mulligan
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...-bears-mulligan-spt-1027-20161026-column.html

It seems strange to think of Jay Cutler suddenly auditioning for his job in his 11th season, eight with the Bears, but that is the reality.

Cutler returns to his tired, old starting role Monday night against the Vikings amid the giddy certitude that it soon will be over. Bears coach John Fox may half-heartedly ratchet up a p.r. campaign to try to sell Cutler to a suspicious fan base, but the simple fact is Cutler already might have played his last game for the Bears if Brian Hoyer hadn't been injured.

Two different league sources say Fox had told friends he was done with Cutler. The player is coming to the end of the guaranteed money on his contract and can be launched after this season with minimal salary cap impact.

The worst kept secret is football is that Cutler is only back as a starter because the Bears have nowhere else to turn. Hoyer's on injured reserve with a broken arm, Matt Barkley isn't ready for prime time and the organization has failed to draft or develop another option.

That leaves the rest of 2016 for Cutler to spend on trial before a jury of 31 other NFL teams. There is no mercy in that court. But there remains a glaring shortage of quarterbacks in professional football and some team somewhere has to be weighing the possibility of bringing in Cutler next year.

Idle speculation will be that maybe Dolphins coach Adam Gase will seek a reunion. Or that Falcons offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan will land one of the five or six-plus head coaching jobs that annually open and perhaps take a chance on Cutler.

Maybe it won't even be a team that has a connection to Cutler. Fix-It Fever is endemic in the NFL. Many of the best and brightest have convinced themselves over the years that they can put healing hands on a player and repair lost causes. One man's trash is another man's treasure.

The Browns signed Robert Griffin III to be its starting quarterback in 2016. Jeff George, the talented Hoosier Hurler to whom Cutler often has been compared played for seven teams over 15 years despite a reputation as a problem. Cutler may have experienced a similar journeyman career if he had not landed on the Bears with their well-earned reputation for mental constipation.

Regardless, the challenge for the rest of 2016 — outside of scouring the college ranks for a legitimate potential starter or at very least an authentic developmental guy — is to figure out a way to find success with what should be a motivated Cutler.

Offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains needs to figure out in a hurry how to get Cutler to play more like Hoyer did in terms of protecting the ball, while also adding some downfield passing finally to jump start an offense can't seem to score touchdowns. Cutler will be a hard sell for any team next year if he continues to turn the ball over. Then again, the Bears won the turnover battle — by two — and still somehow lost to the Jaguars.

The most disappointing element of the Cutler era has been the fact the player only seems to succeed when running on rocket fuel — top receivers, highly paid linemen, strong running game. Everything around him needs to be highly efficient, while, sadly, the Bears mostly have been running on diesel fuel.

Can Cutler succeed without the volatility he previously has needed to escape the grip of gravity? The gap between playing and winning is immense and Cutler simply has been a player in Chicago. Dreams of national conquest are long gone. The question remaining is how much the guy wants to continue to play.

He's now auditioning for the next chapter of his football life. Can he give a practical demonstration of his suitability or is this a trial he's doomed to fail? At least he will provide something worth watching on a 1-6 team.
 

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Fox and Friends should be a TV show

Fox gets a keg and he and his friends slowly get drunk as he reveals his true thoughts on the team
 

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the shoopster thought he'd never see the end of the purgatory Cutler hath wrought upon us, but it appears to be nigh . . .

. . . now how long to get rid of Fox? . . .
 

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When the season gets so ugly a train wreck is actually fun to watch. This is starting to have shades of 2014. A coach who is losing the team and grasping at straws to try and save his ass. Media leaks, scapegoats, etc. It would be funny and deserving if Cutler kills one more coach on the way out.

Jay Cutler: " tell Fox I said fuck him"
 

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