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Great Kiper calls this year a "rare year when there is no consensus top QB in the draft" great. Just great.
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That's a big concern for sure. If Pace and his staff feel strongly about one the QB prospects, and believe they have a good feel of their intangibles/talent projecting highly to the NFL, then they should get him. But if they feel that the top 3-4 QBs are all pretty similar, and none of them really separate themselves that greatly, I don't think drafting 1 and taking a shot in the dark at #3 is a wise move. I think the Bears will have their pick between 2 of Mahomes, Kizer, and Watson in the 2nd round. I think Trubisky will be the 1st QB off the board.
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Thing is, if there were a consensus top QB, he'd be picked by Cle or SF or someone jumping to Cle's #1 slot overwhelming them in a trade. We'd be SOL @ #3 anyway.
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I don't think there was really a consensus best QB last year either. There was a lot of debate between Wentz and Goff, and a lot of people soured on Goff the deeper he got into the process. Mariota and Winston were also a big tossup. I think this year is different in that, there's really no consensus if any of these guys are franchise material at all. It's a huge tossup this year because all of the prospects have major weaknesses, and don't have elite tape. And I don't believe any of them could step in on day 1 and lead a team right now. They're all going to need some time.
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These are the 3 boards in order which I pay attention to and cross reference for rank consistency and they all had Wentz ahead of Goff. Notice that they are all top 10ish rank which Dominik prefers when reaching for a QB.
Mayock
Wentz 1
Goff 10
Jeremiah
Wentz 7
Goff 8
Scouts Inc.
Wentz 10
Goff 11
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continuing ranks for the 2015 1-2 QB selection.
Mayock
Winston 6
Mariota 5
Jeremiah
Winston 5
Mariota 7
Scouts Inc.
Winston 1
Mariota 4
Mayock
Winston 6
Mariota 5
Jeremiah
Winston 5
Mariota 7
Scouts Inc.
Winston 1
Mariota 4
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Anyone see anything in this Nathan Peterman kid who will be playing for the North side in the senior bowl??
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Copying my post from another thread as it applies equally here -
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-dr...draft-titans-joey-bosa-chargers-laremy-tunsil
Very first NFL mock I found from January a year ago, and it had Goff at 2 and actual #2 overall pick Carson Wentz being the third QB off the board at #22.
Every year the media "experts" say it's a bad QB class and have them projected as later picks, and every year people just accept their words as gospel, and then the actual NFL GMs who understand the value of the QB position make them look completely stupid.
This year, by comparison, I've already seen mocks with Trubisky, Kizer and Watson in the top 10, and have read talk of all three of them being potential targets for Cleveland with the first overall pick. This is a better class than last year for the top 3.
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Question for the AJ Macarron crowd here, if he is all that and a bag of chips shouldn't Hue Jackson and the Browns be all over that? Maybe they will but if not one must wonder if the AJ hype is only that, hype.
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I honestly have no clue....but do you know when the last time a top 10 QB threw 17 INTs in college?
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Winston threw 18 INT's
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Interesting. Last season Winston threw for 4,090 yds, 28 TDs, 18 INTs, 85.2 rating, and he completed 61% of his passes. Overall....pretty "meh" when you're talking about "franchise" QBs. Obviously, he's still young and can certainly still improve.....but overall, those aren't very special numbers. But it does lend credence that Watson could be at the very least, a passable starting NFL QB. Interesting.....
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There is 6 games and a playoff game to evaluate.
If the Bengals thought he was all that would they trade him in the division?
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Those are exciting number for a guy in his 2nd season.
QB development is a progression.
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True..but to supply some context, those numbers are very similar to Jay's in his 3rd year in Denver. Exciting and encouraging numbers for a 2nd year QB? Sure....but they're still far off from "legit franchise QB." That's not to say that Winston can't get there....but for a guy drafted #1 overall, he certainly needs to do much better.
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I think you are seeing improvement and progression.
Cutler was regression from that season on. Never even came close to replicating those numbers.
