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Great Kiper calls this year a "rare year when there is no consensus top QB in the draft" great. Just great.
Great Kiper calls this year a "rare year when there is no consensus top QB in the draft" great. Just great.
Great Kiper calls this year a "rare year when there is no consensus top QB in the draft" great. Just great.
I don't think there was really a consensus best QB last year either. There was a lot of debate between Wentz and Goff, and a lot of people soured on Goff the deeper he got into the process. Mariota and Winston were also a big tossup. I think this year is different in that, there's really no consensus if any of these guys are franchise material at all. It's a huge tossup this year because all of the prospects have major weaknesses, and don't have elite tape. And I don't believe any of them could step in on day 1 and lead a team right now. They're all going to need some time.
5. Trade delusion. Speaking of trade offers for quarterbacks, we are approaching the time of year for hyperbole about what quarterbacks could potentially bring in draft compensation. NFL general managers understand how precious currency first-round draft picks are, especially for their long-term financial value. To think that a team is giving up 1) a first-round pick for Jimmy Garoppolo or 2) two first-round picks for Kirk Cousins (assuming he receives the franchise tag) is, well, delusional. Yes, Sam Bradford netted a first, but that was a move made in the post-injury desperation of training camp, not the quiet premeditation of March. Not happening.
I don't think there was really a consensus best QB last year either. There was a lot of debate between Wentz and Goff, and a lot of people soured on Goff the deeper he got into the process. Mariota and Winston were also a big tossup. I think this year is different in that, there's really no consensus if any of these guys are franchise material at all.
Copying my post from another thread as it applies equally here -
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-dr...draft-titans-joey-bosa-chargers-laremy-tunsil
Very first NFL mock I found from January a year ago, and it had Goff at 2 and actual #2 overall pick Carson Wentz being the third QB off the board at #22.
Every year the media "experts" say it's a bad QB class and have them projected as later picks, and every year people just accept their words as gospel, and then the actual NFL GMs who understand the value of the QB position make them look completely stupid.
This year, by comparison, I've already seen mocks with Trubisky, Kizer and Watson in the top 10, and have read talk of all three of them being potential targets for Cleveland with the first overall pick. This is a better class than last year for the top 3.
Great Kiper calls this year a "rare year when there is no consensus top QB in the draft" great. Just great.
Copying my post from another thread as it applies equally here -
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-dr...draft-titans-joey-bosa-chargers-laremy-tunsil
Very first NFL mock I found from January a year ago, and it had Goff at 2 and actual #2 overall pick Carson Wentz being the third QB off the board at #22.
Every year the media "experts" say it's a bad QB class and have them projected as later picks, and every year people just accept their words as gospel, and then the actual NFL GMs who understand the value of the QB position make them look completely stupid.
This year, by comparison, I've already seen mocks with Trubisky, Kizer and Watson in the top 10, and have read talk of all three of them being potential targets for Cleveland with the first overall pick. This is a better class than last year for the top 3.
I honestly have no clue....but do you know when the last time a top 10 QB threw 17 INTs in college?
Winston threw 18 INT's
Question for the AJ Macarron crowd here, if he is all that and a bag of chips shouldn't Hue Jackson and the Browns be all over that? Maybe they will but if not one must wonder if the AJ hype is only that, hype.
Interesting. Last season Winston threw for 4,090 yds, 28 TDs, 18 INTs, 85.2 rating, and he completed 61% of his passes. Overall....pretty "meh" when you're talking about "franchise" QBs. Obviously, he's still young and can certainly still improve.....but overall, those aren't very special numbers. But it does lend credence that Watson could be at the very least, a passable starting NFL QB. Interesting.....
Those are exciting number for a guy in his 2nd season.
QB development is a progression.
True..but to supply some context, those numbers are very similar to Jay's in his 3rd year in Denver. Exciting and encouraging numbers for a 2nd year QB? Sure....but they're still far off from "legit franchise QB." That's not to say that Winston can't get there....but for a guy drafted #1 overall, he certainly needs to do much better.