Is Jimmy Butler a top-10 player?

[Enasic]

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I know. Comparing through 38 games and Paul George lost his basketball iq and intangibles was the better bench mark


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Nice try but you presented really zero arguments about who the better player is currently.

[SilenceS]

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Nice try but you presented really zero arguments about who the better player is currently.

Give me a week. If George has a better five games, my argument will be stacked


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[SilenceS]

Why is no one talking about the Greek freak. Guy is the Bucks and they are actually a playoff team right now


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[Enasic]

Greek freak deserves a ton more recognition. Very true.

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Give me a week. If George has a better five games, my argument will be stacked


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Yeah...no. This is straw man at best. Also, Jimmy had a great year last year as well. This isn't some aberration. It wouldn't surprise me if he was even better next year either.

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Yeah...no. This is straw man at best. Also, Jimmy had a great year last year as well. This isn't some aberration. It wouldn't surprise me if he was even better next year either.

Paul George didnt have a great year coming off a nasty injury? There is no strawman. You are taking a 40 game sample. I dont even think one is really better than the other. But, your rhetoric on basketball IQ and intangibles is laughable. PG was a 1st team all defense and still is a lock down defender. You dont get that by just not having intangibles. You are trying to make this argument that butler is clearly the better player and its simply not true.

[Enasic]

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Paul George didnt have a great year coming off a nasty injury? There is no strawman. You are taking a 40 game sample. I dont even think one is really better than the other. But, your rhetoric on basketball IQ and intangibles is laughable. PG was a 1st team all defense and still is a lock down defender. You dont get that by just not having intangibles. You are trying to make this argument that butler is clearly the better player and its simply not true.

I never said PG's basketball IQ or intangibles are bad....but Jimmy is just more efficient, takes better shots, is a better facilitator. I just said there's a lot more that goes into it than talent. Which is true. I honestly can't think of one great, top 10ish player whose career high in PER is 20. And I would have picked Butler over PG last season...so no, I'm not basing this off a 40 game sample.

[RamiTheBullsFan]

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More lists please.

Biggest a-holes on CCS:
1. Gustavus
2-10,000. Everybody else

[RC_Skinny22]

I still have that wet dream of Jimmy at SG & Paul George at SF in the Bulls lineup.

At least I can see this in 2k....

[PolarBear]

Blake Griffin is the most overrated player in basketball.

In no way should he in the conversation with Jimmy.

[RamiTheBullsFan]

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Blake Griffin is the most overrated player in basketball.

In no way should he in the conversation with Jimmy.

So being overrated in itself automatically makes him lesser than Butler

[clonetrooper264]

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Why is no one talking about the Greek freak. Guy is the Bucks and they are actually a playoff team right now


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It's just a 40 game sample

[SilenceS]

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It's just a 40 game sample

Give me a week and I really have an argument.

[Gustavus Adolphus]

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Biggest a-holes on CCS:
1. Gustavus
2-10,000. Everybody else

Poor attempt at humor.

Most lists please.

[Crystallas]

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Why is no one talking about the Greek freak. Guy is the Bucks and they are actually a playoff team right now


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They are talking about him. But as a Pelicans fan on a Bulls forum, it's not like you're going to notice a massive bit or recognition here.

Jabari was supposed to be LeBron 2, and look, Antetokounmpo is taking the spotlight instead. The Bucks are a dark horse.

[RoseMVP1]

I think that the Bulls not having Jimmy for 3 games(counting the one he tried to play but was to sick) proves he's a top 10 player. The team is dreadful. Without him they would have the worst record in the league

[clonetrooper264]

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I think that the Bulls not having Jimmy for 3 games(counting the one he tried to play but was to sick) proves he's a top 10 player. The team is dreadful. Without him they would have the worst record in the league

Nah, the Nets would still be worse.

[SilenceS]

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They are talking about him. But as a Pelicans fan on a Bulls forum, it's not like you're going to notice a massive bit or recognition here.

Jabari was supposed to be LeBron 2, and look, Antetokounmpo is taking the spotlight instead. The Bucks are a dark horse.

Dont be sassy. Im a NBA fan. Pels just come on my tv. lol

[PolarBear]

Breakdown -

The guys definitely better than Jimmy right now -

Lebron James
Kevin Durant
Stephen Curry
Russell Westbrook
Kawhi Leonard
Anthony Davis
Damian Lillard
Demarcus Cousins
James Harden
Giannis Antenekounpo

That's already 10 guys.

Players in the same conversation as Jimmy -

Paul George
John Wall
Demar Derozan
Isaiah Thomas (he has been amazing)
Klay Thompson
Kemba Walker
Chris Paul
Kyrie Irving
Karl Anthony Towns
Lamarcus Aldridge

From my point of view - I would take Jimmy over any of those PG's. A quality, two way wing player who has shown he can probably be a 1b type option on a championship team is going to beat a PG in my eyes. The point guard position is deep.

Out of those guys, I don't see a player who can carry a team like Jimmy has so far this season.

Give me Jimmy at 11.

[houheffna]

I can't say Jimmy is better than Kyrie Irving...not yet anyway...

[RoseMVP1]

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Nah, the Nets would still be worse.

Their net rating when Jimmy is off the court is worse than the Nets, who currently have the worst in basketball.

[clonetrooper264]

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Their net rating when Jimmy is off the court is worse than the Nets, who currently have the worst in basketball.

That's disgusting