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Yeah that's what I meant too.
Yeah that's what I meant too.
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I think we're all saying this same thing but some are just saying it in a different way. I already said this but anyone that doesn't think Pace should take a QB at 3 if one is sitting there that he believes is franchise changing then that person or persons don't understand how important a QB is to a team.
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But none of us or any of these experts get to sit in on one of the most important parts of deciding if that QB is the guy you want starting for your team which is the interview process and when they put that QB on the white board to check is football IQ for plays. I would think all GM's wait until after they sit with each of these kids before they place them on their draft boards.
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Oh good we get to read about what the Bears did 10-15 years ago. How many QB's did they pass on in the 1987 draft or the 1977 draft??
Talk about stupid fucking posts. Do you give out awards for stupid fucking posts to?
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I agree with this but personaly think Trubisky worth the pick. We've learned there's no sure things. You point to Geno Smith which I agree was a reach but there are plenty that weren't and fail as well. I've got Kizer in my top 3 but he'll need to show more accuracy in workouts to earn it. He's actually not there yet for me even though his potential is huge. Only a fan so not worth more than opinion and I also really like Hooker early. If Trubisky is gone, I could easily see us taking a position player at 3 and trading back into one for our pick of what's left at QB before Cleveland (3rd pck) or SF have their next picks.
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This and no matter how often we say it, it wont register.
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I have. I have seen "If Pace doesn't pick a QB at 3 he should be fired."
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I think there is more pressure to obtain a QB this year then any year I can remember. Pace put us here and now Pace has big pressure to fix it. I don't like drafting desperate. If we pass on elite D talent for a flop QB this rebuild starts over with a new staff. We would all love to be the GM but this year shows how tough the job really is. I almost feel bad for Pace. Except he put us in this position. I don't know what the answer is but we can't miss on another 1st rd draft pick. He needs to draft BPA in the first and take his chances after that. If he feels there is a QB is worth the 3 pick then great but please don't reach.
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While I don't agree with such a black and white statement, I think that line of thinking is more about his failure to identify QBs and address the position. I wouldn't say "pick one at 3 or you're out", but if he comes away from this draft without using an early pick to make a serious attempt to draft a potential franchise QB, I do think serious questions need to be asked about a GM who came in acknowledging the importance of the position and then completely failing to identify and acquire talent three straight years.
I don't think it's going to come to that though because I think he will draft one in the first round, whether it's at 3 or not.
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If this qb class had kids worthy of going in the top 5, we would know it. Take last year as an example. At this time last year everyone knew 2 qb's would get drafted at the top or near it, the only question was order. No combine necessary, their body of work was enough.
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This isn't going to be true no matter how many times you repeat it.
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-dr...draft-titans-joey-bosa-chargers-laremy-tunsil
Very first NFL mock I found from January a year ago, and it had Goff at 2 and actual #2 overall pick Carson Wentz being the third QB off the board at #22.
Every year the media "experts" say it's a bad QB class and have them projected as later picks, and every year many of you guys just accept their words as gospel, and then the actual NFL GMs who understand the value of the QB position make them look completely stupid.
This year, by comparison, I've already seen mocks with Trubisky, Kizer and Watson in the top 10, and have read talk of all three of them being potential targets for Cleveland with the first overall pick. This is a better class than last year for the top 3.
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WHO? and WHEN?
These statements amaze me. I'm involved in nearly EVERY draft discussion on this board and don't see them. Yet shit like the above is said.
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What QB's has Pace passed on that look like they're gonna be good QB's in the NFL? Besides Dak of course. Serious question.
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This is entirely correct.
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To this point:
For Christ sakes there was a mock draft with a guy going #3 overall to the Bears who ended up not even declaring for the draft!
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Lynch.
2015 is kind of irrelevant though because we know he made a move for Mariota and 2016 is kind of irrelevant too in a way. He made the Mariota move knowing what 2016 would look like.
I think your question is kind pointless though, Mick's overall point is Pace needs to ID his guy in this draft and go after him and make sure he gets him.
It's too bad Pace's back is against the wall in this draft in some ways because next year's QB class has the potential to be '83/'99 levels of hype good.
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this, and the fact that Dak got the DUI 6 weeks before the draft made teams very leery of wasting a draft pick on him. Fact is all 32 teams passed on him for 4 full rounds until Dallas too a shot with their Compensatory pick at 135. If they would have had any inclination that he would have performed half this well, they would have taken him with their own 4th round pick at 101.
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Dak is one of those rare later round picks that looks good early. My point isn't about Dak, it's about identifying the best of the talent at the top of the draft, and dispelling this persistently circulated myth about the weak class and how if anyone was worth it they'd already be projected there. That simply isn't the case, as has been proven.
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A good GM shouldn't be afraid to take a QB 2 years in a row. Browns took Kessler in the 3rd and likely will take another one this year. Maybe in 2017, Kessler plays a couple games and looks really good while the rookie is sitting or hurt. Kessler is now good trade bait.
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