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    I'd do it for the Celtics package.

    The other two..Nah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gustavus Adolphus View Post
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    Crys was right in the first reply, there really is no reason to think about trades or the draft until you know what is your FO situation. I'd like to think that Gar is gone, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see him again.
    I can definitely understand that and didn't think about it in that way. That being said, I think the Bulls if they are going to trade Jimmy it needs ot be this off-season to ensure we get an adequate return and also because you have fringe teams like the Celtics and Sixers who have extremely valuable draft selections they maybe more willing to part with as they search for star players to help them contend.

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    What I'd want would be s a pair of starters, not role players, not bangers, not great defenders who can work on their shot, but shooters who could get their own shot. Combined I'm looking at 28 points a game between them, 12-16, 13-15, 14-14. Add to that a pair of lottery picks that come in non consecutive years. I don't want two in one year, that's too many rookies for too few minutes. Even in consecutive years you're adding another important young player before you've seen if the first can develop and while you're still sorting through veterans who may or may not step up.

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    What about this proposal?


    Boston Celtics receive:

    Jimmy Butler

    The Chicago Bulls receive:

    Jae Crowder
    Marcus Smart
    Amir Johnson (for salary purposes)
    Brooklyn's 2017 first round pick
    Brookyln's 2018 first round pick
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreadpirateroberts View Post
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    What about this proposal?


    Boston Celtics receive:

    Jimmy Butler

    The Chicago Bulls receive:

    Jae Crowder
    Marcus Smart
    Amir Johnson (for salary purposes)
    Brooklyn's 2017 first round pick
    Brookyln's 2018 first round pick
    So, you think Jimmy Butler is worth those 3 players the number 1 pick in the draft and probably a top 5 pick the next year. No, that would be suicide for Boston. Butler doesnt put Boston over the top. 2017 draft is stacked. Boston is in great shape to make a run in the coming years. Going all in now makes no sense with how high these Brooklyn picks are the next two years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreadpirateroberts View Post
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    What about this proposal?


    Boston Celtics receive:

    Jimmy Butler

    The Chicago Bulls receive:

    Jae Crowder
    Marcus Smart
    Amir Johnson (for salary purposes)
    Brooklyn's 2017 first round pick
    Brookyln's 2018 first round pick

    Never going to happen.


    If that gets offered, then sorry Jimmy, much love, but I'm going to take it. That's the Bulls instant rebuild in one offseason IMO. No way Wade stays, no way Rondo stays, so you can attempt to trade them as rentals for even more assets, tank the season, and bam, you have two lottery picks and cap flexibility to bring a few vets in.

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    IMO, a combination of...

    Amir Johnson or Tyler Zeller (one of them, for Salary Cap purposes)
    Jalen Brown or Marcus Smart (one of them, high end young talent)
    Brooklyn 1st round pick in 2017 or 2018 (one blue chip, basically guaranteed Top 5 pick)

    ... would probably be highest bid the Celtics offer to acquire Jimmy Butler.


    So let's say a combination of Brooklyn 2017 Top 5 pick (ideal for Bulls to acquire young PG talent), SG/SF Jalen Brown (basically a "new Jimmy" to be developed) and a Cap fill in (C Zeller).
    Would you say yes or no to that offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer View Post
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    IMO, a combination of...

    Amir Johnson or Tyler Zeller (one of them, for Salary Cap purposes)
    Jalen Brown or Marcus Smart (one of them, high end young talent)
    Brooklyn 1st round pick in 2017 or 2018 (one blue chip, basically guaranteed Top 5 pick)

    ... would probably be highest bid the Celtics offer to acquire Jimmy Butler.


    So let's say a combination of Brooklyn 2017 Top 5 pick (ideal for Bulls to acquire young PG talent), SG/SF Jalen Brown (basically a "new Jimmy" to be developed) and a Cap fill in (C Zeller).
    Would you say yes or no to that offer.
    Absolutely because of that 2017 pick. But I think Boston keeps that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer View Post
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    IMO, a combination of...

    Amir Johnson or Tyler Zeller (one of them, for Salary Cap purposes)
    Jalen Brown or Marcus Smart (one of them, high end young talent)
    Brooklyn 1st round pick in 2017 or 2018 (one blue chip, basically guaranteed Top 5 pick)

    ... would probably be highest bid the Celtics offer to acquire Jimmy Butler.


    So let's say a combination of Brooklyn 2017 Top 5 pick (ideal for Bulls to acquire young PG talent), SG/SF Jalen Brown (basically a "new Jimmy" to be developed) and a Cap fill in (C Zeller).
    Would you say yes or no to that offer.
    I would but the Bulls probably wouldn't. Does Jalen Brown ever develop into an all-star? Does the #5 selection ever become top a top 15 player in the league? Does Garpax fuck up the pick? The Bulls aren't going to accept any deal without both Nets picks and Ainge isn't going to include them both. I don't see a deal getting done.

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    If we are doing pipe dreams...great I'm in. "I'll take Blake Griffin plus your best young guy, and Michael Jordan next year...then Kareem but only if its not consecutive to getting Michael...I want a year in between that, and then we can get Kobe with our own pick."

    Ok.
    1a. OLB Myles Garrett 1b. FS Malik Hooker 2a. WR Corey Davis 2b. Corner or OT 3a. QB Webb. Kaaya. Russell. Mahomme. somebody will be here at great value. 4a.CB Awuzie Colorado 4b.TE Sprinkles Alabama 4c.RT
    5a.CB Tony Brown Alabama 6' 4.4 speed. Troubled. 5b.Jake Butt TE Michigan. injured

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    Boston should be selling off the parts of their own ill thunk team to dip several times into this next draft.
    1a. OLB Myles Garrett 1b. FS Malik Hooker 2a. WR Corey Davis 2b. Corner or OT 3a. QB Webb. Kaaya. Russell. Mahomme. somebody will be here at great value. 4a.CB Awuzie Colorado 4b.TE Sprinkles Alabama 4c.RT
    5a.CB Tony Brown Alabama 6' 4.4 speed. Troubled. 5b.Jake Butt TE Michigan. injured

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    I'd trade Jimmy just for about anything at this point. He is turning into a cancer. The objective is not really to get a good return for Jimmy but to get young players/picks. The real rebuild happens by sucking for the next 3 seasons or so to get consistent lottery picks in the top 5.

    Wade could be traded but it would just be for expiring contracts that make salaries match up
    Jerry's goal is to get the 8th seed to lose in the 1st round. That's all that matters to him.
    The cancer of the team is definitely the front office.

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    The cancer of the team is definitely the front office.
    That is right. The idiocy of the front office tries to make Jimmy look like an asshole just like they tried to make Thibs the ass-hole. Smart people know better. The Bulls have two would-be tough guys in top management. Thibs and Jimmy are legit tough guys. The other two are weak-assed bullies.
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    It'll be interesting to see if anything with Minnesota pops up again, especially after LaVine tore his ACL. Now, there is no way LaVine and Dunn will get a deal done. You gotta include their 2017 1st round pick and probably more.
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    Not sure how reliable this is, but rumors are always interesting. https://goo.gl/wTsBIm

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    When Reinny dies, who will own the Bulls and White Sox? At this point in both franchises, I think that we need to hope that after he dies, something like what happened with the Black Hawks occurs. The problem with both franchises is Reinny and you can't fire the owner
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    Michael will own Jerry's shares. He doesn't own 100% of either, his investment firm owns the majority of both along with a few other investors. There was also a time where Jordan was going to get some shares of the Bulls in Jerry's LWAT. This was before the Wizards investment.

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    Not sure how reliable this is, but rumors are always interesting. https://goo.gl/wTsBIm

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    The Bulls will probably be in the hands of Michael Reinsdorf. The Sox are another story all together, as he wants his executors to sell his shares upon his death. Whether they do or not, is another question.

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